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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: So, it originated with the Minister.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is fair enough. I thank the Minister for his honesty. It will save me from putting in a request for all correspondence regarding where it was stated that this is an anomaly. It does not exist, obviously, and it is an anomaly because the Minister decided that he needed to deal with it. That is his prerogative but it is an anomaly because he decided it to be so. That clarifies...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: So the Minister is happy to continue if it is defeated?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: It will be defeated. There is no doubt about that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is fair enough.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Okay, so even though it-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Even though it is something that the Minister has stuck his head on the block in relation to? To be fair, I admire people sticking their heads on the block on an issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Which will be defeated.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Fair enough. I wish to ask the Minister a couple of questions and will then conclude. I have two different areas that I want to ask about. How is the Minister's relationship with the Road Safety Authority? How is the Minister's relationship with the Chair of the Road Safety Authority? How often have they met? The board of the Road Safety Authority is completely depleted. I believe...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Minister and the chair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Given where we are on this piece of legislation - and I understand and respect where the RSA stands on it - does the chair of the RSA believe that she has adequate expertise on the board for it to do its job?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Why?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: This is the Road Safety Authority we are talking about.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: They have six members.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Yes. I have gone through them. There are glaring gaps.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Will that address the expertise that is required to ensure that we are getting the best policy and implementation of road safety in this country? Will they meet the full spectrum of expertise required, as communicated to the Minister by the chairperson?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: So they will not have the expertise.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: I have no issue with that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of Road Traffic (Fixed Penalty - Drink Driving) Bill 2017: Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport (5 Apr 2017)

Alan Kelly: Yes. I have no issue with that. I would actually agree with the Minister about putting some people like that on the board. The fact is, however, that the Minister is in dereliction of his duty by not having appropriate people with expertise on the board of the RSA to implement this policy and other policies. I am saying that directly to him as a serious concern. I know it to be a serious...

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