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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: And Mr. Fraser, or whichever Accounting Officer is given the job, will have to implement it then.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Fraser repeat that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: This may be helpful. We have on the screen the letter from Robert Watt about the business case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have been giving members a good bit of time. The next speaker is Deputy Jonathan O'Brien. Am I correct that Mr. Fraser must leave by 12 noon?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: In fairness, we started at 9 a.m. Three hours is enough.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It will be tight. Whether everyone gets in on the second round depends on how quick members are.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It did them more harm than good.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy has-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: As we said earlier, Mr. Fraser has to be out of here at noon. It is now 11.40 a.m. I will divide the time equally between us. I will be abrupt and stop members mid-sentence. Members indicated earlier in the following sequence: Deputies Catherine Murphy, Marc MacSharry, David Cullinane and Catherine Connolly. There are slots of four to five minutes, and I have to be mercenary about the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will start with five-minute slots in case a member comes in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have to move on to Deputy MacSharry. He has five minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy said he had two questions, and I gave him the-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Fine.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Fraser send the committee a note on that as this issue frequently arises at our meetings.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: For the record, someone could have an unconscious bias for or against public transport, for example. It is not only about people.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We should stop this discussion now.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. Fraser have a quick comment to make?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: At this stage we have given this item three hours. I thank Mr. Fraser and his officials from the Department of the Taoiseach, as well as the official from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, for attending. There are some items of information to be forwarded to the committee's secretariat. I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and his staff.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The next item on the agenda is the minutes of the meeting of 26 April. Are they agreed to? Agreed. Having had a cursory look at them, I have one observation to make. We had much correspondence to deal with last week and met people about the Probation Service and the building. There were many unanswered questions and we had to issue requests for 27 items of information as a result....

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