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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: The question I asked was whether the digestate coming out is of the same standard every day. Are the components the same every day?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: How much nitrogen would there be per 1,000 gallons?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: Mr. Macken got a better response than with chemical fertiliser. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: Surely, a balance should be allowed to farmers if they take the slurry off the farm. It should come off their calculations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: I refer to the quantity of raw material required. It may not all be slurry. How much raw material has to go into producing an output of 1,000 gallons of digestate?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: I am sorry for asking so many questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: Yes. I understand that. I call Deputy Leddin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: I am over time and we have other witnesses waiting outside, so I ask Mr. McCarthy to be brief.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: Before we begin, I bring to the attention of those present that witnesses giving evidence from within the parliamentary precincts are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence they give to a committee. This means witnesses have a full defence in any defamation action arising out of anything said at a committee meeting. However, witnesses are expected not to abuse this...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: This issue will not be as easy to solve.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: The agriculture sector is getting credit for these plants. At the end of the day, we have a very significant target for the reduction of emissions from the sector. We will be using waste and a lot of output from the agricultural sector, whether it is grass, a crop, fodder beet or whatever. Would the agricultural sector get full credit for the energy that would be produced from these plants?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: Will we get full credit if, by using digestate, we reduce our chemical nitrogen by whatever percentage Mr. Caslin is talking about? The previous witnesses were very strong about the value of the digestate and the nutrient value that it would contain. I was surprised at the figures they gave regarding the nutrient value and the consistency of the product that would be produced. If we reduce...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: That would go on the balance sheet for the agri-sector? That can go towards meeting our 25% target?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: We have heard from representatives from various sectors. The biggest problem I see with this is that we are not making any more land. The competition for land is going to be intense. If one were to try to source ground at the moment to feed these plants, I do not know how it would be economically viable to do so. Banding and the pressure on dairy farmers to meet their stocking rate...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: I thank the witnesses for a very informative session. I thank the four different organisations for their contributions. We will now suspend for two minutes to allow the witnesses for the second session to come in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: We visited UCD Lyons Farm last week. I was extremely impressed by the trials on multispecies sward. We were shown three lots of cattle that were being grazed. One lot was completely on a multispecies sward, clover and ryegrass. No table was necessary to show the increase in performance. Professor Dillon has said that he does not want any chemical nitrogen on underutilised land to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: I thank the representatives of Teagasc for appearing before the committee this evening. I am sorry for keeping them waiting earlier. Their research into this issue is very welcome. If we are to meet the challenges of the modern world, we need to embrace this modern technology. Producing renewable energy is a key part our battle against climate change. At our next meeting, we will...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: I now invite Mr. P.J. McCarthy to make his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: Mr. Macken referred to 3,000 gallons per acre. The nutrient components in the slurry must be high.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Biomethane Renewable Gas: Discussion (3 May 2023)

Jackie Cahill: I am sorry. I ask to be indulged for one more second to ask one more question before I let the members ask theirs. How much slurry does it take to make 1,000 gallons of digestate?

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