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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Will Mr. Woods ask the person in the HSE who was a party to them and write back to the committee with a "yes" or a "no" answer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Woods said he listened to the INMO. Does he agree or disagree with it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Woods said he had listened to the INMO's presentation; therefore, he is aware of what it stated. Does he agree with it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: There is a big difference between 12 and 350. Perhaps Mr. Woods and his team might confer a little more on this issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: This is incredible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: What is the answer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Therefore, what is the answer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: I refer to the number lost through the system versus the numbers of staff who have come in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: This is a serious issue because the statistics are completely at odds.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is why I keep asking for the net figures.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: I am sorry to interrupt but at the outset the Chairman asked how this would be funded. I would appreciate it if Mr. Woods outlined that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Is it about €250 million?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Go on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: I understand Mr. Woods cannot-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: We have a few minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Government does not need the Chairman's vote. I will have to leave soon but on the capital plan, it is a huge budget. What Mr. Woods referred to earlier will be a huge outlay, whatever it will be. I was chancing my arm on that but it will be huge. I am not convinced. We are from the mid-west and we are thinking about Limerick. A total of €3 million is required just for the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Is anybody currently exploring it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: I understand that. That is the reason I suggested it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Maternity Strategy: Discussion (19 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: On the capital side, regardless of who is in government I do not believe we will have this completed in eight and a half years. We will have to step outside the box, make some recommendations as a committee and examine alternative funding mechanisms to deliver the scale of the budget required, whether through a national bond or some other mechanism, because we cannot wait any longer. This...

Select Committee on the Future of Healthcare: Health Service Reform: Private Hospitals Association (18 Jan 2017)

Alan Kelly: Perhaps Mr. Nugent could consult with all his hospitals and ask for that information and supply it to the committee.

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