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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: There will be changes in the structure of that account for 2018 onwards. We will be dealing with 2017. The National Training Fund is collected from employers by the Department of Education and Skills. There should not be a delay there. I propose we invite it to come before the committee. I propose to turn over the page with the list on it, because we have to be very selective. I...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: They really have to get an accounting certificate before it goes to the Comptroller and Auditor General. They might at that stage. I suggest we invite the Abbey Theatre. It does not have its accounts in and its turnover in the previous year was €12.5 million. I refer also to the Economic and Social Research Institute, ESRI. It has €12 million. Does anyone want to add or...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are inviting the Secretaries General for the Local Government Fund and the National Training Fund, the chief executive and chairman of the board of the Abbey Theatre and whoever is the Accounting Officer for the ESRI. I do not know if it has a board or what its corporate structure is.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: No.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are bringing them in to highlight the fact that they have not complied with their statutory duty. They might have them in by then.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I think we will make a point with those four bodies. All of the others will receive a stern letter from me as Chairman saying the deadline has been missed and they should get them in immediately. We will ask for a detailed reply.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will. We will have the replies from the other 30 plus bodies.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: They are all coming in quicker.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will the Deputy advise me whether the letter should written as Béarla or as Gaeilge?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will have to get the Deputy's assistance. Somebody will have to give me some assistance in writing it as Gaeilge. We are inviting the four bodies mentioned and it will be just one special meeting to make a good point. Item No. 1255 is from Mr. Niall Cody, chairman of the board of the Revenue Commissioners, providing a response to matters related to the racing industry raised by an...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Marc MacSharry also has a letter. We will come to everybody who has indicated.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputies Catherine Connolly, Catherine Murphy, Alan Farrell and Bobby Aylward.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Sorry. I might be confused with all the hands going up.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: There is a contingent liability of €2.6 billion. This came to the committee from the State Claims Agency on 31 January.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Farrell.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Sorry. I am confused.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Jan O'Sullivan.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am coming to that now. I join with members in expressing deep concern and sympathy to all the ladies involved in this situation. The picture is unfolding every day and we do not know what is going to happen next week. I met some ladies last night and they have told me that last weekend they were afraid of every unrecognised number that rang on their phones in case it was a doctor or...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will specifically add that question. The letter continued to quote chapter and verse about open disclosure, which was launched in 2008. On 8 February, this committee received a letter, reference No. PAC 32-1-707, which was about open disclosure, plus a 96-page document on open disclosure, pilot schemes, a review of pilot schemes and training. It is not happening yet, ten years on. We...

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