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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: I do

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: I do indeed want to speak to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: It is unhelpful that the Accounting Officer has sought to personalise this from his perspective. I listened on to the clips that were sent on to me by the local radio station.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: To provide the background, last week I raised concerns about the fact that a report by the HEA into research and development, spin-out companies and process at the institute and which was supposed to be in September 2017 has still not been published. We are now in October of the following year and there is still no report. The concerns I raised at our previous meeting were not necessarily...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: There is a report to be compiled by the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: I thank the members for their comments. I agree with Deputies when they say that we cannot respond to every criticism levelled at members of the Committee of Public Accounts because we all get criticised-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: -----and as a body we get criticised.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: In this particular case, when the criticism is personalised and a member is singled out and then accused of doing down their own city and country because they have asked genuine questions about concerns that have been articulated by people in an institute, and we are just doing our job, that is serious. It does have implications for us and needs to be responded to. This is an Accounting...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: That is the way to do it. We sought the meeting to discuss the governance arrangements between the HEA and the Department. There were some media reports following Dr. Love's resignation that there was tension. Obviously, we want to understand what is happening. We have been looking for reforms and changes in governance in a lot of areas and if there is an impediment or block, we will want...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: I do not think there is anything we can move. The committee has to get through all of these topics - housing, CervicalCheck, hepatitis C-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: My point is that all of the slots up to early December are taken. Given that earlier we discussed Bord na gCon and the Department of Education and Skills, is there a need to hold a meeting on a Tuesday or a Wednesday? If we do not, it will be next year before we get to these issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: We held a separate meeting to discuss the President's Establishment.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: We held a meeting on a Tuesday to discuss the President's Establishment.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: When we come back next week, there might be a gap.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: I agree fully with what has been said about lines of demarcation. I advocated at our second last meeting that this issue be considered to be important. Has there been any interaction between the two clerks?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: That would definitely be a route for us to consider the issue of value for money. The auditing part is probably a matter for the health committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: We need to be clear on the line we will adopt.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: We have been promised the two letters but were they in response to the surveyor's report?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: Mr. Buckley said two letters were sent to the committee in response to a 2017 report. Is that the position?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

David Cullinane: Was that the surveyor's report?

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