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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: One hundred percent of what?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: But-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It does not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Very briefly, Dr. Grogan is saying that area is 100% of the whole parcel. However, if that area was smaller and was less than 10% of the whole area, is it okay?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am totally confused. To me, percentages have to be percentages of something. A percentage does not hang in the air. I have to say Dr. Grogan has given two contradictory messages to us here as to of what it is a percentage. Is it of the whole parcel or of the little area that is taken out? Every sceach is 100% of itself. When would enough sceachaĆ­ get together so they would have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: What page are we on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Can I ask a question on this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: No. Let us suppose we did not have B and C but only A. We know that 40% of A is grazeable so 60% of A is not grazeable. However, when I take the 60% of that area as a proportion of the total field, it is much less than 10%, so if I do not red line it, I should be allowed to get a zero deduction. Is that right?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: No, I am talking about area A. Supposing the field did not have areas B or C, and it was all grass except for area A. That area A, the non-grazeable part, is less than 10% of the full field.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am asking the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It is not clear.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It is not clear to me and I can tell the Chairman it is not clear to the farmers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I do not think it is clear to everyone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The Chairman is also making the point that I do not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I thank the witnesses for their presentation but I have to say farmers are fed up with the guessing game they are playing with the Department. It is causing great grief and uncertainty for farmers, who think they have been told by the Department what the eligible areas are but are now being told it is a totally different game. How accurate were the exclusions that the Department notified to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Will there be any more going out, taking photographs and saying there are no sheep on the land?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is gone now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is great news.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I did.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme and GLAS: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Apr 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: What if the Department is overruled by the auditors?

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