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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay, that is good. It is the Minister who is responsible for the answer when it lands in the Dáil Chamber. I call Deputy Catherine Connolly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is that per annum?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am sorry to interrupt, Deputy Connolly but Mr. Fraser mentioned tribunals ending up in his Department and I would just like to make an observation in the context of the scoping inquiry. On the face of it and based on what we have seen so far, if there is to be a tribunal, it will be under the Department of the Taoiseach. The Department of Health will be a subject of the inquiry, as will...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: A scoping inquiry-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We know that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The only point I disagree with is that it is relevant to the subject matter of today's meeting. There were four tribunals of inquiry and this is learning from those for the future.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The principle of setting these up is.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: And Mr. Fraser, or whichever Accounting Officer is given the job, will have to implement it then.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Fraser repeat that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: This may be helpful. We have on the screen the letter from Robert Watt about the business case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have been giving members a good bit of time. The next speaker is Deputy Jonathan O'Brien. Am I correct that Mr. Fraser must leave by 12 noon?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: In fairness, we started at 9 a.m. Three hours is enough.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It will be tight. Whether everyone gets in on the second round depends on how quick members are.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It did them more harm than good.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy has-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: As we said earlier, Mr. Fraser has to be out of here at noon. It is now 11.40 a.m. I will divide the time equally between us. I will be abrupt and stop members mid-sentence. Members indicated earlier in the following sequence: Deputies Catherine Murphy, Marc MacSharry, David Cullinane and Catherine Connolly. There are slots of four to five minutes, and I have to be mercenary about the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will start with five-minute slots in case a member comes in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have to move on to Deputy MacSharry. He has five minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy said he had two questions, and I gave him the-----

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