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Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: I know there are confidentiality issues but there are many cases. What route was taken by the typical person who wanted to bury money in Switzerland? What did these people do? Whom did they telephone?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: Just give an example.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: Did any money move from Ireland to Switzerland? Mr. Cody has many cases. There are 360 cases.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: I am only talking about tax evasion.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: Did they have it offshore already?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: Was money transferred from Irish banks directly or did it all go from-----

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: No, I do not mean in those cases. In any cases where tax evasion was suspected was money transferred directly or did it go through a circuitous route?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: To Switzerland.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: Can Mr. Cody say that no money under suspicion of tax evasion was moved from Irish banks in the Republic to HSBC in Switzerland? Can he say that never happened?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: It was all offshore already.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: That is a very interesting point. France, Belgium and Argentina have charged HSBC-----

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: I read that in the newspapers so it is probably wrong.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: Ireland has not pursued it for criminal activity.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: From whom did Mr. Cody get this advice?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: How does Revenue decide from whom it gets legal advice?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: This is very important and it is very important for the Revenue Commissioners. The Revenue Commissioners do not seem to like prosecuting people very much and their record of prosecuting on these issues is sparse to say the least. As Mr. Cody knows, nobody was prosecuted under Ansbacher. We have been through that before with the Revenue Commissioners. On bogus non-resident accounts, I do...

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: I know, but it has investigated 1,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: It has investigated 1,000 out of 3,600. Is that not right?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

Shane Ross: We had-----

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