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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 5 - Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Chief State Solicitor's Office (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: I thank the Chairman.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Citizens' Assembly (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: I welcome the comments made in respect of the biodiversity citizens’ assembly articulated by Deputies McDonald and Christopher O’Sullivan. I take the point that we need to do more in a review of the NPWS and indeed the agri-environmental scheme. We need to work on this as that is why the carbon tax is important to provide funding for that agri-environmental scheme. On the...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Citizens' Assembly (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: I answered that earlier. My own view on reconciliation on the island is that we need to engage at both political party and community level with different traditions coming together. I am not clear that a citizens’ assembly is the best model for dialogue and for the more consistent long-haul engagement that is required. This is the sort of long-haul engagement that was required that...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: The council, yes. It should have had more. Other local authorities are doing much better on the social housing front and in 2022 the target is 9,000 additional builds through approved social housing bodies and through the council. I am not clear whether the approved social housing bodies-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: I am not clear whether the approved social housing bodies-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: We do not run too many councils these days. We have a healthy-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: We have the largest number of councillors across the country but, as the Deputy is aware, all councils are fragmented between different parties. It takes a collective-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: What I have known in many councils, though, is that a lot of parties to the left just keep opposing housing developments until the cows come home.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: Deputy Paul Murphy raised the issue of retail and hospitality workers. Again, just on the minimum wage, ours is the second highest in Europe right now. Even if you take in purchasing power, we are the sixth highest within the European Union. I think we need balance. We are above the average European wage. Again, we support wage increases, particularly linked to productivity. We do not...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: That is an extraordinary recovery in our economy which one would not-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: Well it has been an extraordinary recovery. Employment is the best way out of low pay.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Citizens' Assembly (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: I propose to take Questions Nos. 20 to 28, inclusive, together. As the House will be aware, the most recent Citizens' Assembly, on gender equality, concluded its work in June 2021. In the intervening period, circumstances pertaining to the Covid-19 pandemic have meant that it has not been possible, until now, to arrange for the establishment and running of further assemblies. The recent...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: What is it?

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: There was quite a range of questions. In response to Deputy Smith's question on MetroLink, as far as I am concerned, we need to get it going. It will happen. It could be subject to delays. If there are planning delays or judicial reviews, that will delay it, but some of those issues are beyond our control and people are entitled to exercise their rights, and so on. However, we should be...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: On Deputy McDonald's points on green hydrogen and offshore wind, the Government is of the view that offshore wind energy has enormous economic potential in this country. It could do an awful lot to redress the imbalance in economic development between the eastern and western seaboards. It will commence in a serious way off the east coast. Wind energy generation off the west and south-west...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: -----and that is what the plan we are publishing today will do. Today's Government decisions are significant. They represent a very significant ramping up of the retrofitting agenda. Deputy Devlin raised the issues of attic insulation and cavity walls, for which the grants are to be up to 80%. There will be a significant take-up. We will facilitate people to proceed on a phased basis....

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: The key challenge for us, even in terms of the targets we have set, as alluded to by Deputy Duncan Smith and others, is on the skills front. That is why it is important that we map out how the carbon tax revenues will be used for the retrofitting programme. Approximately €5 billion in carbon tax revenue will be used for retrofitting over the next decade. That is what is enabling it...

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: The Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science is working on ramping up in respect of the skills requirements. We need to give the industry certainty and clarity regarding the roadmap and invest in-----

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: Deputy Christopher O'Sullivan raised the issues of woodland and forestry. I accept the points he was making. I am uncomfortable with Coillte selling valuable woodlands of the kind in question given that, to me, Coillte, Bord na Móna and other State agencies must now be leaders in respect of climate change. To be fair to Coillte, it has done some fantastic work across the country.

Ceisteanna - Questions: Cabinet Committees (8 Feb 2022)

Micheál Martin: To be honest with the Deputy, we have an enormous challenge ahead of us to achieve what will be in those carbon budgets. We need everybody in the House to support this. We currently do not have the support, even in the House, to achieve the targets we have set.

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