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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: I thank the witnesses for attending. I met some of them when we visited the site. I was very struck by it and had long and interesting conversations with Mr. Gunning and the project manager. I get the uniqueness of the site. For members of the public who might be watching, I was very struck by the fact that, if I interpreted it correctly, if this was a house-building project, normally a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: If Mr. Gunning has answered it, that is fine, but at some stage he will sit down with the Secretary General and the Minister to look for additional moneys.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: Is it because of commercial sensitivity? Does the board not want it out there with BAM and other contractors that this is what it is looking for?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: Mr. Gunning can understand why people might be cynical about the term "commercial sensitivity" and that it is a cover-all. Can he, in one minute, and I am sorry to pin him down to that, develop that a little?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: Mr. Gunning will understand how frustrating that is for us on this side of the table because we are dealing with a lot of taxpayers' money. What does Mr. Gunning say to us?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: If the 10% concrete block tax materialises in the finance Bill, will that have an impact on the construction costs?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: Mr. Devine does not expect it to have an impact because most of the work around that piece has been completed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: The completion date is March and commissioning will be six months.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: At least six months for commissioning. Therefore, the earliest date is November or December 2024.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: What is the realistic date?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: I refer to the satellite piece. Everybody sits to attention and flicks pages. How is it doing in terms of what was anticipated, footfall and delivery? There is about two minutes left for the witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: Could Mr. Tierney please do so?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: So as to alert the public that it exists.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: Blanchardstown seems to have exceeded expectation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: How is the Tallaght satellite comparing with that at this stage?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: What is the cost of that project?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: I would not hang my hat on BusConnects. What is Mr. Tierney's response to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: No, but it must concern him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: No. How people get to the hospital will concern Mr. Tierney.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Construction of the National Children’s Hospital: Discussion (5 Oct 2022)

John Lahart: On the children's hospital satellite at Tallaght, it was stated that the original cost was €77 million and the outturn cost was €83 million. Did I get that right?

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