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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: Does the Senator want to bank his questions until after the break or is he happy to keep going?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: We will break for 15 minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: I propose we resume. Deputy Durkan was the next speaker.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: Before bringing in Deputy Donnelly on the second round of questioning, I will ask some questions. Does the contractor bear any responsibility for the financial overrun? In other words, are there any penalty clauses built into the contract or have any of those been triggered by targets not being reached?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: That did not apply up to now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: Given the transition from the first to the second phase, would it not be pretty obvious that the party with the phase A contract would get the phase B contract? There is a penalty for a contractor in the form of incurred costs of €300 million if horses are changed mid-stream. There may also be a delay in the delivery date by two years. It would be pretty obvious to BAM Ireland that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: That clause had two serious elements. One was the extra €300 million and the second was the potential two-year delay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: Will the penalties that are part of phase B be sufficient to ensure costs do not exceed what has been estimated?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: Is VAT at the 13.5% rate?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: The €650 million and €983 million figures are exclusive of VAT.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: We must finish by 1.45 p.m. and four contributors remain. Perhaps we could have ten minutes or 15 minutes per contribution.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: May I move on to Deputy O'Reilly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank Ms Hardiman.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: We have roughly half an hour left and three other contributors. We will take Deputies Kelly and O'Connell and Senator Colm Burke in that order.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank the Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank the Deputy for making that point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank Senator Colm Burke for his patience.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (16 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank Mr. Costello, Mr. Pollock, Dr. Curtis and Ms Hardiman for coming before us. We have been here over four hours so I thank them for their perseverance. The meeting is adjourned until 9 a.m. on Wednesday, 23 January when we will hear from the Departments of Health and Public Expenditure and Reform.

Written Answers — Department of Health: Hospital Appointments Status (15 Jan 2019)

Michael Harty: 761. To ask the Minister for Health when a person (details supplied) in County Clare can expect an appointment for a procedure in University Hospital Limerick; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [1444/19]

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