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Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: It is giving only one option. It is disgraceful that we are guillotining a Bill that is a matter of life and death.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I have listened carefully to Senator Crown and others. We are nearing the end of the debate, but I oppose the legislation for a simple reason. I have listened to the psychiatrists who gave evidence and contacted me. I have read written observations that clearly outlined that alternative methods to abortion exist for dealing with suicide ideation.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I will share what Senator Leyden outlined. I have grave reservations about section 9 and am unsure as to whether it can be improved. Senator Healy Eames is genuinely endeavouring to do so in the form of her proposal. If I gather correctly from Senator Gilroy, everything he said supports where Senator Healy Eames is coming from.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Minister confirmed it.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: If it is covered by public insurance, then the taxpayer is exposed, so it is even worse. The Members opposite cannot have it both ways.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: We know many of these consultants operate private practices in public hospitals and have their own private insurance in addition to any public cover they have in public hospitals. According to obstetricians who require insurance to cover the work they carry out, they fear, with the legislation as drafted, that in so far as practicable and possible that if they save the life of the child that...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: This is abortion. One can dress it up whatever way one likes but it is the abortion of vulnerable and innocent children.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Who said that?

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: On a point of order, that is very unfair and disingenuous. Will Senator Cullinane point out where I have said that?

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: It is a point of order. I am being quoted out of context and it is very disingenuous of Senator Cullinane.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: One policy in the North and another in the South. That is Sinn Féin all over, recognising the Border.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Bill gives the mother priority over the baby's life. The baby is treated as something that can become a medical procedure if the baby becomes a danger to the mother. In sections 7 to 9, inclusive, only the mother's life is protected. The baby's life is not. Members of the medical profession have raised concerns with me. I have been informed by obstetricians that it is the area of...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: This is what they are saying.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Does abortion reduce the risk of suicide in pregnancy? There is no suggestion in any of the core psychiatry or peri-natal psychiatry text books that abortion is a treatment on its own or as part of the risk reduction measure for suicidality in pregnancy.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I am happy to defer to the section by all means if the House considers that is more appropriate.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: When we are legislating on a health Bill - and this is a health Bill, one which will define Irish history in the years to come, whether people get the chance to live or whether they will be aborted - we should make sure that the legislation is evidence-based. All of the medical evidence coming from pro-life and pro-choice psychiatrists suggests that it is almost impossible to determine...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: -----when she presents in the manner outlined in the Bill because it is very difficult to pre-empt what people would do. If the Government and the Minister are serious about dealing with the issue then why confine it to good faith, why not look at the evidence-based medical practice? Why not include medicine-based best medical practice? Why confine it to good faith? Good faith is very...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I have been listening to the debate on the three amendments and I believe they are reasoned amendments. They bring me back to when the Animal Health and Welfare Bill was before the House. At the time all main farming organisations were lobbying intensively to have the powers of officers working for the Department changed from operating on reasonable grounds to operating on evidence-based...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: That is a shameful comment. The Minister of State is representing all of the people.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I am sorry I was not born a woman. Should I be penalised because I was not born a woman?

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