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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Who decides?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Am I right that it is the HRI that decides?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Am I right that HRI has the final say?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: The fact is that a disproportionate amount of money has gone to the bigger organisations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: One possibility is that because smaller racecourses get less of a percentage of the overall pie because the media rights is a smaller percentage than it used to be, which is down to 86% as opposed to 93%, they are under more pressure to get the money together than they would need to do that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: If the chief executive denies that HRI has been abusing what I suggest is a privileged position, because HRI is the sole auctioneer, will she commit in future to taking no more than the market value for data rights in the agreement on the fixture charges?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: My information is that HRI gets in excess of what the market value for the data would be.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: It is the complaint that I have put to the chief executive from people involved in the industry who happen to be smaller players. I do not know how independent anybody is in this situation. Since HRI itself owns racecourses, who is independent? I put it to the chief executive that we need an independent review of the data rights element of the package being negotiated as HRI is in a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: What is the difference?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Is Ms Eade willing to go ahead with a review?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: I thank Ms Eade for her answers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: I thank the HRI representatives for their answers. They are facing questions on a diverse range of issues. To return to what HRI said it was willing to facilitate, I put it to the witnesses that there is a bit of a PR problem at some of the smaller racecourses and that there is an expectation that they should not be aggrieved in a situation like this. Can we get some action on HRI and AIR...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: HRI said it was open to this in 2016. It would be helpful if there were some action on that. There is something bothering me. Ms Eade acknowledged the progress that has been made and spoke about HRI's synergies and work with the IHRB. She praised the proposed changes to its board. HRI is the funding organisation for the IHRB. It remains the case that it is a closed shop in respect of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: It is a long way from a majority of independent people on the board.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: The IHRB is responsible for integrity in racing. There is potential for vested interests and people looking the other way. I am not saying that is happening in any individual case but this is all about perception. If you are looking at what is going on with regard to anti-doping bodies internationally, you will see that there is usually a majority of expert outsiders.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Let us be clear that I am not making accusations against anybody but someone who was previously the chairperson of the IHRB, and perhaps still is, sold a yearling for €1.3 million or so. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that but I put it to Ms Eade that the way to assuage the concerns of people who are worried about allegations about doping in horse racing is to have a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: When asked why there was not necessarily and automatically an investigation into people who had been convicted for criminal offences, the IHRB previously said, at one point, that it was its job to look at breaches of the rules rather than convictions. Of course, the reality is that action has been taken when jockeys were convicted for cocaine offences and so on. My problem is that when a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: The Mr. Hayes case, which is on the public record, involves a conviction for animal welfare issues. Did the IHRB take action on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: Is Mr. Osborne telling me that if there is a conviction for an animal welfare issue, sooner or later the IHRB will initiate a process of its own?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Strategic Priorities for Horse Racing Ireland: Discussion (15 Jun 2022)

Rónán Mullen: That would be perfectly reasonable if it were the only reason the IHRB would not take institutional action. Is Mr. Osborne confident there has not been a case, a concluded issue in the courts, relative to animal welfare that did not result in the IHRB also taking disciplinary action?

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