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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: How does that figure break down into redress and compensation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: So the figure is €23 million in total, is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is €18 million the figure for redress and €5 million the figure for compensation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: I mean no disrespect to Mr. Stanley, but he knew he was coming before the committee today. That figure relates to a question which was obviously going to be asked. I do not think it is reasonable for him to come in without having that figure to hand.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: There are 1,200 customers. The problem is that the money Ulster Bank is refunding to people is not the its money; it is the tracker mortgage holders' money.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: They should not have to beg for it. We have been consistent with all the banks. I have no doubt but that the witnesses have watched the committee's proceedings with great interest. We have sought the total amount that has been paid to date, which the witnesses have given, and a breakdown of that amount in numerical and value terms between compensation and redress. The witnesses have come...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: We have asked this consistently of all the banks that have come before us. It is a question the tracker victims and the public looking in are asking. They want to know what percentage is being paid in addition to the redress and compensation. Can Mr. Stanley give me an idea-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Of the 3,500 customers the bank has identified, 1,200 represents 35%. It would be interesting to see what percentage it is paying-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the highest amount the bank has paid?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: The breakdown between the redress and compensation for that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: That person lost his or her home.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: I will move on to a matter Mr. Stanley touched on earlier. It was reported towards the end of last year that there was a dispute between Ulster Bank and the Central Bank. Between 2,000 and 3,000 additional tracker mortgage holders might be impacted upon by this scandal. Can Mr. Stanley tell me where this matter stands? What is the profile? What is the area of dispute regarding these...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does Mr. Stanley see a much lower-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: We had representatives from Bank of Ireland before us a number of days ago. Bank of Ireland stated that 6,000 of its customers were in similar discussions. In a number of those cases, the areas of discussion that arose before the new CEO was appointed concerned the fact the mortgages were taken out before the consumer protection code was introduced in 2006.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is not an issue-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Ulster Bank will therefore treat them consistently regardless of whether they took out their mortgages before or after the introduction of the code.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: I assume this cohort is coming down to interpretation of individual agreements, that that is the range.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Stanley is stating that there will be new-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: How long before that group of victims who had tracker mortgages will be paid and compensated?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Tracker Mortgages: Ulster Bank (1 Feb 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is it fair to say that of the 3,500 customers, 1,214 have been paid and compensated to date?

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