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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I believe they were sent this morning. None of us has had the opportunity to read the answers.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Once we are finished correspondence we might suspend for a number of minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will move very quickly through this correspondence. Surely 45 minutes is enough to read all of the documents. In fact, I would have thought that half an hour is enough to go through the documents that arrived last night.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I agree with the principle, but I am not proposing to suspend the whole meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are agreed that we will have to suspend for a period to allow members to read the documents. We will decide what to do in a few minutes. I still have not seen the documents. I am aware that they arrived at some stage, but I have been travelling. Most of us have been on the move and have not been in our offices to print off the documentation in order to have copies at this meeting. It...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will see is there anything we have today. There is correspondence from Mr. Aidan O'Driscoll, Secretary General of the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, providing information, reference No. 12878B. We will hold it over until the next meeting. The next item is No. 1287, from Mr. John McKeon, Secretary General of the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is fully explained. The Comptroller and Auditor General is highlighting the explanation that is in the financial statement. It is all there if anybody has any queries. It is contained in the details of that. We will note and agree receipt of that set of accounts. On the work programme, I am looking at next week. We have a short meeting on Wednesday next at 5 p.m. on the lack of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Thirty-seven in total. A letter has gone directly from me to each of the other 33 for a written explanation as to why they have not submitted their accounts and we will get that correspondence back. We want to make a point in the case of these four substantial organisations on corporate governance and the submission of accounts for audit. That is a specific meeting on Wednesday next. Two...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: As everyone wants to have a look at the material, it is being copied as we speak. It will take ten minutes to get copies for all the members.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It might be good if each of us got a few minutes' silence. I propose we suspend for one hour, until 10.30 a.m. That has to be enough.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I propose suspending for half an hour.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. We will suspend until then.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: In ten or 15 minutes, they are bringing it over.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. We will have to wait for ten minutes until the document is copied. We will suspend until 10.30 a.m. to give us an opportunity-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. We have only one or two copies here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is for members to decide where they want to read the document. We will commence in public session with the witnesses. We will suspend the sitting until 10.30 a.m.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Today we are returning to matters related to State claims, the management of legal costs, open disclosure, and the implications of CervicalCheck revelations. We are joined today by Mr. Jim Breslin and Dr. Tony Holohan from the Department of Health, and Mr. John Connaghan, Dr. Colm Henry, Dr. Jerome Coffey, Mr. Liam Woods, Ms Rosarii Mannion, Dr. Stephanie O'Keeffe, Mr. Damien McCallion, Dr....

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. Prasifka. He is joined by Dr. Audrey Dillon, chairperson of the ethics and professionalism committee and a member of the Medical Council. The two witnesses are free to leave because they have an important meeting pre-scheduled. They are very good to have made themselves available at short notice for this meeting this morning. We shall now proceed. I just want to get...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. Breslin. We will now take the opening statement of Mr. Connaghan, interim director general of the HSE. He is welcome to the meeting in his new role. It is his first time to make a presentation to us.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(17 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Before I call the various speakers, I wish to raise one issue with Mr. Breslin concerning his opening statement and the one topic of open disclosure. Mr. Breslin mentioned open disclosure quite a bit in his opening statement. As we stand, what does he see as one of the main barriers to open disclosure?

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