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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: The concern here is the rise in the incidence of bovine TB in recent years. It is on an upward trend again, despite all the money that has been spent and everything else that has been done. The incidence did decrease a bit at the end of 2022 when it was 4.31% of the herd, but then it started rising again. I am looking to see if there is a figure for 2023. It increased fairly dramatically.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Was it 4.9%?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: This is despite the fact that in 2022 the cost of the scheme was €57 million. Last year, that went up to €74 million and we are still getting this kind of result. When the Department officials were in, they outlined the five main reasons they believe TB is spreading, but we must raise this with them again given the public finances and the incidence of bovine TB. It is an area...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes. I suppose that the big spend is on the compensation element of the scheme.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: They actually give the size of the herd as one of the reasons for the increase in the incidence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: We will discuss that next if Deputy Catherine Murphy is okay with that. One item has been flagged for discussion under category C, which is correspondence from and related to private individuals and any other correspondence. No. R2694 relates to correspondence on Glenwood House. This is a house in Cork that we dealt with previously. It is proposed to note this item, forward the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: He has been welcomed into the fold. How did the Deputy pull that off? I am only messing.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Of course. I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: It happens. Deputy Murphy should go ahead.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes. He raised this with us before.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: One of the points that arises in the letter is that he says the HSE previously declined to give an explanation as to why Glenwood House continues to be vacant three and a half years after its purchase. It is a remarkable situation. It is proposed that we ask those four questions about the total expenditure to date and the expenditure on renovation, maintenance and any other ongoing costs,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Murphy knows as well as I do that there is a shortage of beds for elderly people. There is also a shortage of beds for people who have profound disabilities, yet we have this white elephant sitting there. The facility is badly needed but it has not been brought into use. We will seek clarification. We hope the committee will get an answer from the HSE on it. The correspondence...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: It is not clear why planning retention has not been sought. That is not rocket science. Some effort should have been made to get this project moving. Is it agreed that we proceed as outlined? Agreed. I will move on to the work programme. Next week, on 11 July, which is the last week before the summer break - we are going to have the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine in on...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes, I certainly hope the Department can shed some light on some of these issues because what has gone on has caused concern among the wider public. There is the summer recess, and we resume then with a meeting to consider the business of the committee in September during the first week back. We will have a pile of correspondence to deal with relating to other matters that will come in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: Whatever happens, she can stay here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: It could be us. There is only one thing certain in this game, which is that nothing is certain. Therefore, we could be.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: As Chair of the committee, I want to acknowledge the Deputy's intention to step down, which she made public the other day along with Deputy Shortall. I acknowledge your work on the committee. You have been very diligent. You have certainly has fulfilled your role as a very active and diligent member of the committee. You were previously a county councillor. You go back to Sinn...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: The Workers' Party. You were not with the Stickies then, were you?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: After that, yes, it was called the Workers' Party. You would have been elected in 1981.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 Jul 2024)

Brian Stanley: You were elected in 1983.

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