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Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: Extra, and 100 extra teachers in DEIS schools. That is 680 compared to the demographic provision, which will be 440 at primary level.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: No. The 440 come from the demographics-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: -----plus 680, so it is 1,120.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: Yes.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: No.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: The demographic need is met by the 440. That is just the number of pupils, but we are also providing additional-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: That analysis can be done, but-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: Does the Deputy want to know what percentage of special education-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: We do not have a figure. It cannot be known until children present. Under the new model, provision of special education is based on a profile. We are providing not just for the existing profile but also for 900 additional schools over and above what the existing profile of special education would suggest. We are providing an additional resource and are moving away from the concept of...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: The 900 - 580 at primary level and 320 at post-primary - is an additional resource to meet special educational needs.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: We do not have a figure for that.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: The 440 represents whatever percentage of 30,000 teachers 440 is, so-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: Yes. That is, therefore, a relatively small percentage. A small percentage might be added. We will work out a figure and get it to the Deputy.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: It would be a relatively small percentage. Pupil numbers are not growing at a rate of 10% per annum or anything like that. It is a relatively small number, so we are increasing the resource teaching base by that small number.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: I will address the issue of guidance first. I am absolutely committed to the full restoration of guidance. There is in no question of trying to play weasel words. I am not only committed to that but I am committed to expanding the National Educational Psychological Service by 25% as well to support the student needs to which Deputy Catherine Martin has referred. This is in addition to...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: Only to a small degree but-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: Obviously, the guidance counsellor has to be the person involved in drawing up the guidance plan. We are going to conduct a survey that will identify: the extent to which guidance counselling is being delivered; the extent to which one-to-one services are being delivered; the extent to which other elements are in the guidance plan; and the extent to which the delivery is as we intend it....

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: The guidance plan would be the-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: No, the circular states that the school must apply the additional post being made available for guidance. We do not insist that it is by a guidance counsellor. The guidance plan is a plan drawn up predominately with the leadership of the guidance counsellor. We are supporting the guidance plan. Deputy Thomas Byrne raised this point. I do not detect that principals are trying to undermine...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Richard Bruton: No. I would be unhappy about that. There is a provision that the school must be providing guidance by somebody-----

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