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Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are almost concluded. The Department of Health officials were asked why the scoping inquiry is taking longer than expected. They need not give an answer now but I want detailed notes from the Department on the work that went into preparing the timescale, not the terms of reference. The Department came up with a timescale and the Minister announced it would be in place by the end of...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: He does. So it is the clinicians' fault?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is a direct question and a direct answer, which I appreciate. Mr. Connaghan can understand this from point of view of the committee. We have had a debate based on the letters as to whether people had been informed or it was assumed they had been informed. If we have had this lengthy a debate about that in public, I shudder to think what went on in private. If we can have this level...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: I thank the witnesses. The session went longer than expected. I propose that we suspend in advance of our next sessions on Nursing Homes Ireland and the National Treatment Purchase Fund. I hope we will not have the same witnesses from the HSE and the Department of Health before us for that, for their own sakes. We will recommence with committee business at 2.30 p.m. for 15 minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Before we bring in our witnesses we have some routine committee business to deal with. The first item to deal with is the minutes of the meeting of 31 May. Are they agreed? Agreed. There will be no matters arising that will not come up in the rest of our correspondence so I will move on to correspondence. There are three categories of correspondence. The first is category A, briefing...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will tell the Deputy-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will tell the Deputy what we have here. We have details of invoices processed, including for advertising, printing and binding, translation and so forth, from various companies. The documents also deal with the relevant metrics for the Global Ireland campaign, the numbers who viewed it and the number of training staff-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: I do not see video production referenced-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: The table references video production, Cawley Nea-TBWA, and the sum of €12,365.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Production of high resolution videos and graphics - €121,000 paid to Cawley Nea-TBWA, which is an advertising agency. Obviously, it contracted the work out to a video production company. The total for video production is €133,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: The cinema advertising costs amounted to €96,975.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: There may be other invoices, as the Comptroller and Auditor General has said but the total is €551,000 for the invoices that have been processed to date. We will write back and ask for an update on the final figures when all invoices have been processed. I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General for teasing out that issue. The next item is No. 1357B (i) to (iv) from the office of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: We dealt with that point very effectively this morning and made it clear that when inaccurate information comes from any public body, it will be brought back in to explain. This is the second example of the same point and we only know about it by mistake, because somebody contacted us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are writing to the Department to ask it to clarify and correct the record. We are going to write to the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland to confirm its understanding of the situation, because it was referred to by the Department, which I do not think was correct. We will also write to Dee Forbes of RTÉ because all the senior people from RTÉ were here and they had to know that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: The parliamentary question is also on the record. Item No. 1368C from Deputy Marc MacSharry, dated 11 June, relates to how the proceeds from the sale of Bord Gáis has been spent.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Who are the three Secretaries General?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will look at any statements made prior to the sale proceeding as to the potential use of the funds, as well what happened to the funds when they were received. I assume they went into the Central Fund but let us find out.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: We can write to Ervia directly as well. It is the holding company.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay. We are happy to do that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: The next item is statements and accounts received since the last meeting. We are tight for time, so I propose we hold over the schedule. We could spend ten minutes on it if we got into it.

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