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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Sorry. The request I read from is on the fourth last page. This was what we asked for.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is near the end of the main document. The State Claims Agency-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is after page 66 but the page numbers do not continue thereafter; it is not page 67. There are the six requests we made to the State Claims Agency after its appearance before the committee on 10 May. We requested "A note with the details of the interaction with CervicalCheck and the [State Claims Agency] regarding how the communication process to the women affected would operate" and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Smear tests, not misdiagnosis.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. Those who are subject to audit.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The smear test.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will do that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Now that the issue has been raised by the Committee of Public Accounts, some people feel the Committee of Public Accounts should not be doing the work of the Committee of Public Accounts. The letter from the State Claims Agency is headed and refers to the work of the committee. The subject was matters related to the State Claims Agency, management of legal costs, open disclosure, and the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is just in case somebody felt we were outside our remit. We are dealing only with the financial side.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will send it but we need to-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We cannot.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy's point is well made. I made the point here on the previous occasion that there had been seven committee meetings across three groups, with 32 witnesses in attendance. I do not believe in unnecessary duplication but I do believe the Committee of Public Accounts dealt with specific issues. There was a debate at the health committee yesterday that probably covered areas that we...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: There is.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Maybe there is not a full understanding of the roles of the committees.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I believe that is the principal difficulty because the people I spoke to did not have an understanding. I call Deputy Connolly. We need to get a response back from the HSE.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Can we agree to write immediately to the chief executive of the HSE asking for a detailed explanation before our meeting next week? Is that agreed? Agreed. In category C, No. 1297B is correspondence dated 9 May from Professor Patrick O'Shea of UCC regarding Cork Opera House. It was discussed a few minutes ago. We will note and publish it. No. 1310C, from Ms Maria Browne, Chief State...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy has made a proposal. There is no seconder but we will discuss it. What we have agreed in the meantime is the issue the Deputy raised on the lack of independence and the potential conflict of interest in organisations where protected disclosures or alleged protected disclosures are being made where the people involved in the process cannot be considered independent. In relation...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It will be when we have a reply in a fortnight or as soon as we get it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The proposal that we call for a public investigation.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The legislation does not say that.

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