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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I want to move on. We can come back to this. The only reason I let the Deputy go beyond his time was because he was on the one exact topic, namely, the protected disclosure.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Connolly.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are moving on in the same sequence, just over the time. Deputy Alan Kelly will be next for ten minutes and then Deputy David Cullinane and Deputy Marc MacSharry on the same sequence. I call Deputy Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are into ten minute slots and there might even be another few minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, I call Deputy Alan Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We have to move on, Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is fine, Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay. The Deputy's time is up.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. I think our general point is one we have made here before. The protected disclosures legislation is relatively new. I think most people share the view that it has not yet been fully embraced. It is not operating as originally intended. I am not talking about this case. We are finding it everywhere. I could list ten organisations in which we have encountered this issue. I am not...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have made a broad comment rather than a specific one.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: To an extent, the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform is not on top of this.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I would like to use a simple analogy before I bring in Deputy Connolly. This relates back to what all Deputies see when they are dealing with constituents. If somebody who has applied for social housing from his or her local authority does not get it and subsequently submits an appeal, good practice dictates that somebody outside the housing function, rather than somebody more senior in the...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are near the end. Deputy MacSharry has indicated. On the issue of protected disclosures, the point is very well made but we have a detailed item of correspondence to discuss when this part of the meeting is over in respect of the framework for receipt and investigation of protected disclosures, which just recently came into effect.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is from Paul Quinn, chief procurement officer in the Office of Government Procurement. This came into effect on 18 April. Essentially, the document says that the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, DPER, has published guidance for assisting public service bodies in the performance of their functions under the Act. It summarises the key features and states that all public...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: This morning we decided to go straight into this session and deal with correspondence later.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Fine. We will discuss that in a few minutes when the witnesses have left.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is a broader issue.

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