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Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Just a second. I think the question is fair and the Deputy will expect an answer to it.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy should proceed.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I ask that Mr. Flaherty answer the question without naming the individual.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I did.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Will Ms Fogarty clarify that for the committee following the meeting in order that Deputy Burke will have a full answer to the question?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: We are going over time. I will let Deputy Munster in for a second round.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is over time.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I ask the Deputy to be brief as she has gone over time.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I will let Deputy Murphy back in again later. Deputies Dillon and McAuliffe are not present. I have some questions before we move to the second round. Regarding legal costs and legal expenditure by the university, I note there was a legal bill for the academic year 2018-19 of €360,000. How much of that related to protected disclosures?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Can Ms Fogarty, the financial controller, say?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: How much of it related to protected disclosures?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Can I ask Ms Fogarty-----

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: How much of it related to legal advice on protected disclosures?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Is it correct to estimate the figure at €200,000 for legal fees and work relating to protected disclosures for that year?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Would it be in the region of that sum?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: To confirm this is correct, €200,000 in legal fees was paid that year around the issue of protected disclosures. I have another question on legal fees. The former president left his role in August 2020. We have established that he was paid his notice until December 2020; some of the other Deputies focused on that. Were there legal costs associated with the resignation of the president?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Were those legal costs excessive?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Is it not odd that there were such legal fees around it given the fact that the former president left, you could say, in a fairly comfortable position? He was paid as far out as December 2020. Why was there so much in legal fees and legal involvement in that?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I will move to the Dunnes Stores issue. Professor Mey confirmed there were no written valuations but did not confirm whether there were verbal valuations. Surely, if there was a verbal valuation, which would be unusual in itself, there would be some record of it on a file somewhere, given the amount involved. I take it from Professor Mey's answers there was no verbal valuation. This was...

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Is it "Yes" or "No"? Professor Mey has clarified-----

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