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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I understand, but the audit committee does not sign the annual financial statements on behalf of the organisation. Who is going to sign the financial statements for last year on behalf of the board?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Who is the chairman of the governing body?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Does either Mr. O'Connor or Mr. Savage have a financial background?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am not taking from it or Mr. O'Connor's ability. I am just saying the committee is being presented with accounts from an organisation which have been signed by people who do not have the skill set that allows them to do so. The committee will have to examine further the issue of the skills matrix on boards. I am not referring to the skills available to the finance committees or other...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I take that point. The accounts are audited and I am not saying there is an issue with them. I am just saying that, from the committee's point of view, in the context of the financial governance of any organisation, it is important to ensure the skills mix on boards includes financial expertise, notwithstanding the fact that an organisation might be educational. Does Mr. O'Connor...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am not suggesting there is anything wrong with the accounts which have been audited. I am referring to the board which should not be relying on others to tell it that everything is okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. Love wish to comment?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will park that issue for now, but we will come back to the broad issue when we review today's meeting in due course.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: This is the Deputy's last question for the first round.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have to go to Deputy MacSharry. We will come back to Deputy Cullinane.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Be careful.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: So there is no disclosure. As a matter of public record, who initiated the case? Was it CIT or the individual?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: The individual initiated it.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Fine. That is a matter of public record in the court records.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Mr. Gallagher because we must move on.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I want to move on. We can come back to this. The only reason I let the Deputy go beyond his time was because he was on the one exact topic, namely, the protected disclosure.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Connolly.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are moving on in the same sequence, just over the time. Deputy Alan Kelly will be next for ten minutes and then Deputy David Cullinane and Deputy Marc MacSharry on the same sequence. I call Deputy Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are into ten minute slots and there might even be another few minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, I call Deputy Alan Kelly.

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