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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Is the payscale indicated as well?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Is there a standard payscale across all Departments? Is there an individual payscale for each Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Yes, and comparable positions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: A comparable position would be assistant secretary.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Do they correspond? Are they across the board?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Is it indicated in the advertisement whether this goes to outside organisations or to all Departments? It is within the country only or across Europe?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: What was the response to the advertisement? How many candidates came forward?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: How many were shortlisted?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Who carried out the shortlisting?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: I know about that. TLAC made recommendations to the effect that no suitable candidate-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Who made the observation that no suitable candidate had appeared?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: I am talking about previously.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: I am asking about how the post was filled. That is what I am trying to come at, as well as how all such posts are filled. Was there any procedure that applied to other posts that was not applied in this particular situation? This is no reflection on the appointee or anything like that. What I am trying to get at is whether there is a standardised position. Let us suppose I am applying...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Let us go back to the issue about no suitable candidates. It was agreed that no suitable candidate emerged. Am I right?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: What happened? We discussed the suitability of the candidates earlier. I have listened to a discussion on suitability of the candidates for the past hour. How do we know that a candidate will be treated fairly? I am referring to any candidate anywhere. Can the Secretary General or someone tell me? All the candidates are equal but one is more equal than the others.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: I am in a bit of a quandary with that because it would appear that a particular salary increase was deemed to be applicable in this case. Why and on what basis? What if several people get together and say a post is a particularly important job and they need someone with special talents and they have the person? Is that going to happen? Is that what happened?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: When that was finished was the successful applicant included in the assessment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: The candidate was deemed to be the successful candidate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: Was it decided before that was done or afterwards that he should receive a pay increase? Was the pay increase related to FEMPI provisions or was it outside that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)

Bernard Durkan: What about the people who would have attended for other positions? This is where I started at the beginning about standardisation of procedures. What about people who would have gone forward for other competitions, for example, for the position of Secretary General in other Departments? Would they take the view that they have been in some way hard done by if it was decided arbitrarily that...

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