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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does the Chair wish me to come back in?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank the Cathaoirleach for allowing me to begin. For the information of the committee, I will be withdrawing amendment No. 662.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Could the Deputy reiterate his point? I apologise but I think I may have the wrong note to hand.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank the Deputy for his indulgence. Section 45 refers to community facilities, which include education, which by definition includes the Irish language. We believe it is covered within section 45(3)(d) and, therefore, we will not accept the amendment.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Amendments Nos. 133, 153, 196, 313, 601, 602, 634, 661, 681, 707, 710, 712, 724, 763, 1056 to 1058, inclusive, 1155, 1169 and 1191 were tabled by Deputy Matthews. Amendments Nos. 229, 232 and 614 were tabled by Deputy Duffy. Amendments Nos. 396, 759, 760 and 761 were tabled by Deputy McAuliffe and amendment No. 420 was tabled by Deputy O’Callaghan. The remaining amendments in the...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Section 19 and the definitions on page 32 refer to the national climate objective, which was also covered in the points raised by Deputy Ó Broin. The Bill states at page 32 that ““national climate objective” has the meaning assigned to it by the Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Act 2015”, so it is covered. However, we have committed to looking again...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Once again, I want to check, but my understanding is that the 2021 Act is an update of the 2015 Act.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: I just want to get to the intent. We will come back to this on Report Stage. I note the point the Deputy has made. The Deputy also made reference to the development plans. Section 47 of the Bill refers to the “Obligation to prepare strategy relating to environment and climate change”. Section 47(2) states: The strategy shall include objectives relating to: (a) the...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: The grouping also contains amendment No. 596 in the names of Deputies Duffy, O'Callaghan and Ó Broin and amendment No. 612 in the name of Deputy Ó Broin. Amendment No. 366, which is Deputy Duffy’s amendment, and amendments Nos. 596 and 612 relate to whole-life carbon emissions. This is a complex area that is, from a data point of view, at an early stage of development,...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: If we look at the sections that deal with development plans, it is explicit under the low carbon Act. Section 19 deals with the national planning framework. I am just making a normal observation that we need to look at it and we will come back to it on Report Stage.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: There is also section 19(2)(f).

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: When the officials handed me the committee's report on embodied carbon, I looked at the recommendations. The second recommendations contains the phrase "that the Department prioritise the preparatory work for measuring embodied carbon to ensure that once EU proposals are agreed there won’t be delays". I like things to be measured. It is the accountant in me. Our Department, as the...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: I will begin with Deputy Duffy's point. Deputy Ó Broin referred to my level of understanding. I look at this in pretty straightforward terms. Embodied carbon is a large element of dealing with reducing carbon emissions, but to do this properly we must come with the metrics for it. Departmental officials are actively working on this. I have spoken to them about this in my role. Work...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Which number is that?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Which number is it?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is the Deputy's earlier amendment.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: Amendment No. 614 is a combination of amendments Nos. 612 and 613. We oppose amendment No. 612 on the same principle as we oppose amendment No. 366.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: I will read the note and then go back. Amendment No. 613 is effectively the same as amendment No. 614.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is the same point. Amendment No. 613 seeks to place an additional condition on planning applications “requiring the development to have regard to the ratio of infrastructure to buildings and homes to ensure a more efficient use of infrastructure and associated emissions". However, we believe this is covered at the wider plan-making stage through the zoning of land for various...

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