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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Was it a constant project over that time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Was there a gap at all? Did the OPW work from 2007 to 2008 and did work then halt for two years?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank Ms McGrath.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the witnesses for attending. I wish to raise the issue of legal costs arising from the deal not reaching completion. The cost of the settlement will be paid out over a five year period, and that figure is set, but are the firm's legal costs the only costs in respect of this deal still outstanding?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Paragraph 6.14 of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report states it was agreed to make a payment of €861,000 for the firm's legal costs with a final bill to be submitted before the end of 2013? Has that sum of €861,000 already been paid to the firm?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: In regard to the outstanding bill that was expected, but had not arrived by the end of 2013, why is that amount outstanding and why had it not been calculated previously?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Has the Secretary General any idea of the amount involved? Are we talking in terms of a figure of €861,000 or €200,000? In the previously furnished bill for €861,000, there is a breakdown as to how the amount was calculated. Is it not possible for the Department to do an estimation of what work might still be outstanding on its side and to calculate the amount involved?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: In Mr. Nugent's opinion will the bill be in the region of €860,000 rather than the lower figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Has Mr. Nugent attempted to make an actual calculation based on the first bill that was received?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: What is the basis for anticipating a figure of that magnitude?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Once the bill comes in, will the costs for this deal be closed? Is that the final figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: My second question relates to the site. I understand the valuation is €2.8 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: What is the use of the site today?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: When did it become vacant?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: In terms of managing that property on the OPW site, what are the plans for that site?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Has the OPW not decided on whether to dispose of it or use it for other State uses?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Will the OPW arrive at a decision based on financial or other considerations? Let us say the value of the site increases again, will the OPW decide on other uses?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: If that were to happen, could the Department of Education and Skills be a preferred bidder on the site?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Before it went to the open market?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Land Swap Arrangement in the Provision of Affordable Houses
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(30 Jan 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Could they acquire that site at a discount?

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