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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Approximately 88% of the portfolio being sold comprises home loans, including split mortgages. A concentration of loans of that nature has not been sold in Ireland to date. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Were they sold to Pepper at the time?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: When will the homeowner be first made aware that his or her loan has been sold?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Will that be two months prior to the conclusion?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Ordinary mortgage holders are unaware at this point if their loans will be included in this loan sale.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: They have no idea when that will happen. A deal will be done two months prior to the conclusion of the sale. Is that correct? That would mean-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Crowley made reference to accepted criteria. I have a customer copy of split mortgage terms and conditions from 2013. Paragraph (i) states, "The bank reserves the right to terminate agreement in the following circumstances ... (5) for such other reason as the bank in its discretion thinks fit subject to applicable law". Will that contract follow with the mortgage if it is sold as part...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: The horse has bolted at that point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: With respect, PTSB is a bank that did contracts for split mortgages with customers who assumed in good faith they would be valid for the remaining term. Vulture funds operate to a limited time criterion and a specific rate of return. Will they be entitled to invoke that clause if they wish?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: He cannot say that. Is it correct that the bank has discounted the loans by 50%?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: It has been stated that there is a provision of close to 50% against these loans, which ties in with the warehousing being approximately 50%. I have done a rough calculation. If the bank sells them at a 40% discount, or at 60% of value, it would probably make €370 million; €740 million at a 30% discount, or 70% of value; or €1.1 billion at a 20% discount or 80% of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Based on the price.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does that mean the bank will sell close to the provision?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: I was putting a range of projections to Mr. Masding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: This is critical. Based on the offers that are in, at what point will PTSB state it is not proceeding with a sale but that it will try to work out the loans?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: How long, typically, do Mr. Masding expect the six stages to take?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Masding can estimate it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: It will be done by the end of 2018.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is there a bottom line price being offered by the funds at which PTSB will state it will not proceed with the sale?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Proposed Sale of Non-Performing Loans to Private Investment Funds (Vulture Funds): Permanent TSB (22 Mar 2018)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is it?

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