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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: With respect to Mr. Fitzsimons's opening statement, the committee made a recommendation yesterday afternoon having met Mr. Moran, the Secretary General in the Department of Finance on that matter. Similar measures are needed for IBRC and other State-owned properties. In the submission, REI is seeking the establishment of a stimulus group that would encourage citizens to apply for seasonal...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Is that an issue for the SFA?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Are you sticking with the tobacco issue? This will be your last question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: The band would-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Excuse me, but people will need to leave if their mobile phones are turned on. They interfere with the broadcasting. This also applies to persons in the Visitors' Gallery. The telephones should not be on silent, but turned off.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: One only.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: We now move to the second part of this afternoon's module. What we are doing is facilitating the various organisations, associations and groups which made pre-budget submissions in the context of outlining their positions. We ask that our guests do not go into detail in respect of their submissions because these have been circulated to members for their perusal. Instead, our guests can...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: That information is contained in the submission.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: The committee receives submissions from different groups and there would be a conflict in respect of them. As part of its presentation and in the context of the interests of its retail members, I am sure IBEC will state that the smuggling of tobacco is increasingly becoming a problem. If one sets aside the health issues and concentrates on the product, it is evident that there is smuggling...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I would ask our guests to be very brief in their responses because we only have 30 minutes for this session. There are members present who could speak for as long as Mr. Macey.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Would it not be possible to deal with that difficulty? One of the positive aspects of Smart Taxes Network's proposal is that it would not penalise developments or home improvements. Other jurisdictions have vacant site registers in respect of which compound penalties apply and these ensure properties are not left vacant. Putting in place such a register here would strengthen the Derelict...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: The British market would not have the same number of independent pubs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I might go with you if we get out of here eventually at some time today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I ask Deputy Mathews if he could abstain from talking for a moment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I wish to make some concluding remarks. I ask the delegation to develop its point about excise duty as this would be of assistance to the committee and to the Department. The issue of below-cost selling is recognised as a difficulty. There are three different types of outlets for the sale of alcohol. The off-site outlet issue is far more complex, and Ms Jones made this clear in her...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: I thank the delegates for their contributions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: On that point, I will bring in Mr. O'Brien and Mr. O'Keeffe. Are certain brands of beer, or whatever, on sale in multiples at prices that are less than it costs you to put them on the shelves of your bars?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Is the differential pence or more?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: This meeting is an opportunity for the witnesses, Mr. Peter O'Brien, Mr. Donall O'Keeffe and Ms Evelyn Jones, to add some words to their submissions to the committee. I will not go into their proposals in detail and I would prefer if they could give an indication of what they consider to be the headline aspects of the pre-budget proposals of the Drinks Industry Group of Ireland and the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Pre-Budget Submissions: Discussion with Civic Society Representatives and Focus Groups (8 Nov 2012)

Ciarán Lynch: Have you calculated figures with regard to the results of a minimum increase in excise levels for your industry?

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