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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Dublin Docklands Development Authority
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
(6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: It will be determined by the legislation. I understand that the authority currently has 15 staff.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Dublin Docklands Development Authority
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
(6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Sorry. It was 15 in 2012. Ms Quinlivan is currently working in the head offices of the authority.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Dublin Docklands Development Authority
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
(6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: When the authority ceases to exist - when the legislation is passed and An Bord Pleanála has made its ruling - what will happen to the premises? It says in note 27 of the accounts that the authority owns the freehold. Is it anticipated that the site will be sold or leased?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Dublin Docklands Development Authority
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
(6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Would it transfer to Dublin City Council?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Dublin Docklands Development Authority
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
(6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Has the authority provided advice to the Department on what the legislation should or should not contain?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Dublin Docklands Development Authority
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
(6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: When did that happen?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: From Professor Brennan's correspondence, it seems that she will not be available until September.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: She will be back at her desk in late August. It would be very disappointing if our investigation into the DDDA had to go on until the end of the year.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Can we also make the point that it is no longer the view of the committee that she will be the last person to attend? From previous meetings, we know that people may want to respond. Has Mr. Moylan been invited to appear before the committee? He was the person who drafted the first report. Some members were critical. Perhaps we can speak about the witness list. The second point...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: It is something to be cognisant of because, to date, we have only been looking at the Irish Glass Bottle site. We must be clear on the focus of the report the committee will issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: We need to decide if we will look into this chapter of the special report of the Comptroller and Auditor General. If so, there are people we need to talk to again. Unfortunately, that will delay our final report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: We can clarify it now. The Comptroller and Auditor General is referring exactly to what I want to focus on. Reading the chapter of the special report dealing with the North Quay Investments Limited site, it is very different to the Irish Glass Bottle site. We had to do investigative work to find out how things unfolded. If we do not have to look into the chapter of the special report and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: The view of the committee is clear - we are not referring it to the CPP. If someone wants to push the committee to a vote I can propose one and if they have seconder then we will vote.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: There is no proposal.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: If the Deputy wants to make a proposal, and he has a seconder, then we will move to a vote.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: Come on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: I would be interested to hear what Ms English has to say in the context of whistleblower legislation and how it might change the role of committees in future. As matters stand, however, we will not produce the transcript. We do not need to drag this matter out week after week. We can make a decision now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: We should be careful about the terms we used in this discussion. Words such as "bury" are value-laden and imply that we are trying to cover up something. That is not the case. In my opinion and on proper recollection of the private meeting we had, we are protecting Sergeant McCabe's interests by not producing the transcript. If people have a full recollection of the meeting, they will...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: There are a couple of points in this regard which relate to the investigation into the Irish Glass Bottle site. No. 3A.1 is information which came in relating to the shareholders' agreement, and members will recall from previous meetings that there was a disagreement on the interpretation of what the authority believed it was entering into and what it entered into. We have information from...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Eoghan Murphy: There is the matter of the credit card expenses. The Chairman, Deputy McGuinness, raised the matter at the last meeting before Christmas, and the witness indicated he did not recall having a credit card. It had been a long meeting but he subsequently wrote to us and stated that he had a credit card but had forgotten about it at the meeting. He indicated that he was happy to write to us...

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