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Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: I am just asking because the parents do not want to go into this ward of court scenario; they are suggesting a trust. It is for the benefit of the child and presumably the parents are looking after the child. Who is in charge there? Is it the president of the High Court?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: If Mr. O'Daly could make the process easier, it might help me understand the issues here. It is odd to say the least. I would like to be reassured on it and maybe get the facts beyond that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Is the €1.9 million that goes to the Law Reform Commission for one year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: How is that accounted for? Does the commission make an application for a specific purpose or is it just-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it subject to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: No. In preparation, say, for next year-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Has the commission informed the Office of the Attorney General with regard to how much it is likely to need?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it generally under the same headings?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: It has an ongoing operation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: In her opening statement, I think Ms Creedon referred to costs in the Office of the Chief State Solicitor increasing and being obliged to make a pitch to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes, and Ms Creedon indicated that her office was seeking a supplementary amount.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: What amount is her office seeking in that regard?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: So this is where the fees amount to €994,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: I will deal with that issue first. Fees amounting to €944,000 were paid to counsel for appeals. This compares to the other figure of €581,000. What is the figure likely to be at the end of the year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Will the figure be significantly greater than €1 million?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Will Ms Creedon outline the figure for her office?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Will Ms Creedon outline last year's figures?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: How much did Ms Creedon ask for this year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: It was €9.6 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: So Ms Creedon will be asking for an extra-----

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