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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: Has any issue being identified through this instrument? Has anything arisen? How many times has it been used?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: What was the particular building?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: At the previous meeting in 2022 when UL came before the Committee of Public Accounts it was confirmed by President Mey that an employee of UL raised the matter of the Dunnes Stores property in a protected disclosure. Is this correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: On that disclosure, how was it handled at the time, when UL got that information?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: That is wonderful but it does not answer my question.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: I will go back to Professor Mey, if Mr. Kelly does not mind. How did UL handle it, when it was made aware of the complaints that were made?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: Has the governing authority been shown the KPMG report?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: I think that is-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: The one person who was aware of the report is now deceased.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: Who saw the report is now deceased.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: Does Professor Mey think that is acceptable?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: Professor Mey, unfortunately-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: -----my time, as she knows, is limited. It is utterly laughable that one person saw the report. Nobody within the governing authority is now aware of its contents because of "legal advice". I do not think that is acceptable. It is not acceptable to any member of this committee that this is the case. From the point of view of the reputation of the university, I acknowledge action has been...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: That is not answering my question. I want the witnesses to answer the question I asked.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: I asked a question. Why can the governing authority of the university not be shown the contents of the report?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: You are coming to it but you are taking your time. My time is running out.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: What is in that report must be fairly damaging.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: I must get a sense of this. Would it not be better for the university to deal with this report substantially and, effectively, draw a line under it and take the consequences?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: I take into account what Professor Mey said, but I stand over what I said. I just cannot see UL being able to move beyond this until the governing authority is briefed on the report. I am not a legal expert; far from it. I am not claiming to be one but, from a political and transparency point of view, that is not a legitimate excuse for the public.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

James O'Connor: Okay. I will come back in the next round.

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