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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Have they all been dealt with?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: How many appeals remain in the system to be dealt with?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Can Dr. Smyth indicate the type of appeals that currently take longest to complete?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: If an appeal were lodged today - 3 July - will it be dealt with in a time-based manner or, on foot of the complexities to which Dr. Smyth referred, will it be dealt with in due course? Will appeals submitted in July be dealt with in December or, if there are complexities involved, will it take longer to dispose of them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: How many?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: What percentage of appeals would go to an oral hearing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Would it be sizeable? Would it be 50%?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Okay

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: The problem is that it will take a while to reach that stage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Yes. By the time we reach that stage, it is possible that there will be 100 cases in that year thus leading to a build-up. I take the point that has been made by Dr. Smyth.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: I wish to ask an additional question. Dr. Smyth is right when he said that the system must have integrity. How many appeals have been successful in the past year?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Dr. Smyth has indicated that he cannot give a timescale.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Will the important ones require legislation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: There could be different faces here by then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: People want to steal the Deputy's parliamentary seat.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Do members have any more questions? No. As the witnesses will have heard, the biggest concern is time. I know of a TB-related case that dragged on for 18 months, which I thought was extraordinary, but in the end the appeal was 95% successful. First, the farmer lodged his appeal with the appeals office and received 95% approval. Unfortunately, the Department appealed the decision. At...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: The Department did appeal a decision in this case.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Can Dr. Smyth see that the system is unfair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: We would be unhappy if we were told that we had to wait 18 months for our salary.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Report of the Agriculture Appeals Act Review Committee: Discussion (3 Jul 2018)

Pat Deering: Yes.

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