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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is that Garda vetting?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Do staff require to be Garda vetted to work in the Passport Office because they are dealing with people's private details?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Would this require a stamp by a Garda?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Passport Office roughly covers its costs.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Can the Department send the committee a schedule of the countries in which we own the embassies? I am sure the witnesses have it, but they can send it on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Also, please send a schedule of countries in which we are renting setting out the rental costs per location. That will answer the question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Murphy is speaking about people who are already in the system through Passport Express.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is the problem. They are locked into that channel.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Six and a half five-day weeks amounts to 33 days. The message today for first-time applicants or those who have lost their passports is that applications through the Passport Express system will take six and a half weeks.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is the message the Department needs to get out so that people might opt for the other route.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: A sign must be placed in post offices where people make their passport applications - and nowhere else - because they will see it in front of them. We can talk about Twitter, Facebook and websites, but the 200,000 people who have used the Passport Express service so far this year should see a sign in front of them in the post offices. That is where they would see it because they could not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: They genuinely need to work on that issue because An Post will claim it is not up to An Post to explain delays in the Passport Office. They are two State bodies and should put the sign up between the two of them.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: An Post.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is An Post, a semi-State body. I have made my point. I come back to Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy will get a second opportunity.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: I want to give other speakers the opportunity.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Burgess can send those on directly to the committee. I call Deputy Cassells. We are down to ten-minute slots and the Deputy will get a second chance as well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Could you say that again?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is important to dwell on that for a few seconds. Everyone talks about investment into Ireland by multinationals. Mr. Burgess is saying that in reality, there are probably as many people employed by Irish multinationals in foreign countries as there are employed by foreign multinationals in Ireland.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 14 - Control of Ireland's Bilateral Assistance Programme
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
(21 Jun 2018)

Seán Fleming: Could Mr. Burgess explain that for those watching who might not understand that?

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