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Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are discussing the misdiagnoses which were marked as normal and in which cases the results do not correspond with the conclusion. Are the witnesses stating that smears went from a doctor to the laboratory and back and CervicalCheck had no medical involvement in the results?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Why did the senior people in the HSE not have a quality assurance mechanism in place to verify from the point of view of the HSE and CervicalCheck that the work carried out by the contractors was valid? Nobody in a public organisation for which a contractor is doing a job accepts that the work is done satisfactorily on the basis of the contractor sending back a report. Rather, the results...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Should CervicalCheck have a role in checking the results that come back from contracted laboratories?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am asking about individual cases. I do not wish to waste time. The witnesses were asked a very specific question. I am dealing solely with a question asked on the previous occasion the witnesses were before the committee and also submitted in writing. The witnesses stated that it is possible that no medical staff may be involved in the process. The committee asked for the sample of...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: The patient results sent to CervicalCheck are not usually checked by a medical professional in the HSE, which writes the cheque for the work to be done on behalf of the individual patients. That is my understanding of the situation and it is part of the problem.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Okay. The hour to be spent on CervicalCheck will start now. The following speakers have indicated: Deputies Alan Kelly, David Cullinane and Catherine Murphy. Each Deputy will have a five-minute slot.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I was doing my work as Chairman on behalf of the committee in bringing up the request for information we sought but did not receive.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Kelly's five minutes begins now.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I ask Deputy Kelly to allow Mr. Connaghan to respond as there are other members waiting to contribute.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Cullinane.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy had a five-minute slot and he spent it putting questions with no opportunity for answers. The five minutes allocated to each speaker is inclusive of questions and answers. I will allow a quick response to the third question.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I remind members that there is not five minutes allowed for questions and ten minutes for answers. We have only one hour on this topic.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I ask Dr. McKenna to revert to the committee on the matter before next week.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will Dr. McKenna come back to us on the timescale?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will ask Mr. Connaghan to answer that question and then I will call Deputy Catherine Murphy. If Deputy Cullinane is not happy with the answer he gets, he might have an opportunity to come back in at a later stage.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will move on to the next speaker, Deputy Marc MacSharry, and I remind him these are short time slots.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is just for people like CiarĂ¡n Brennan-----

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: -----next week when the State Claims Agency appears before us.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Would the involvement of the laboratory have been an issue?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Jonathan O'Brien.

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