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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I am happy to return to this matter if the officials can source the information.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: The Eventsec security contract for €635,000 was only for inside the Phoenix Park. It did nothing else while Pulse Security looked after security outside the Phoenix Park. Could Mr. McMahon come back with those figures if he has them? Is it fair to say that the overall cost will be more than €18 million because, obviously-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Maybe not to the Minister of State's Department but in general, will it cost more than €18 million? Obviously there is a Garda bill.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: There is a Garda bill that the Department of Justice and Equality must meet. Perhaps this is an unfair question and if it is, the Chairman can pull me up on it. What is the total cost of the papal visit across all Departments?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: The figure of €18 million is just the OPW bill.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Multiplied-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: There is reference to €4 million.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: There is no Supplementary Estimate for flooding.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I asked for information, although the witnesses can come back with it after the meeting.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: What of the €200,000?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: To follow up on that, we now have the figure for Dublin Castle, the papal route, the Pro-Cathedral, the Capuchin Day Centre and Knock. I will put down the Phoenix Park event as €200,000 because it was outside. I presume the reference to car parks is to car parks around the Phoenix Park, which, again, is outside.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I was looking for information on two figures. I now know that €200,000 of this is in regard to the Sunday. There is a combined services figure of €387,000 and a security figure of €246,000, which comes to approximately €630,000. We now know €200,000 of that was in regard to the Sunday event. What does the other €400,000-plus relate to? I am...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Where were they?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: However, they are not listed as individual events. Therefore, we spent €400,000-odd on stewarding on Croke Park.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Where did the €400,000 get spent?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: We already have a separate figure for the papal route of €73,000.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: It does not say which page, but it is halfway through. It is contract and procurement information on overall cost for the company, Pulse Security. It gives us a list for the two subcontractors, G4S and SecuriGroup. It then gives us a breakdown of the costs, which is the €1.006 million and tallies with the overall figure. It gives us a breakdown of where all the money was spent at...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Yes, they can write to the committee so we all have the information.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: The total is €387,000 plus the €246,000-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Supplementary)
(4 Dec 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Yes. I know what €200,000 was spent on but I do not know where the other €400,000-odd is.

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