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Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: I did not mislead the House. I put the question myself to the Secretary General of the Department at the Committee of Public Accounts.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: The Tánaiste will get a chance to come back. He is saying one thing and the head of the Department of Health is saying something else. History teaches me that I do not know who to believe on this issue. We have been fighting for the second cath lab for so long. In relation to the overspend, here is what we also learnt at the Committee of Public Accounts today.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: On top of the €1.4 billion there will now be an additional €75 million in ICT costs, an additional €52 million for electronic records, an additional €86 million for children's health integration, and an additional €40 million for the Mater campus. The entire project is based on the potential of getting €150 million from the private sector from...

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: What we know is that some capital projects are under review and the Tánaiste and the Minister for Health are not being entirely clear with people as to which projects they are and what projects will be delayed or scrapped. The Tánaiste needs to be very clear with people, not just in the south east but across the State.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: A process of review.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: But it is being reviewed.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: The exorbitant cost of the national children's hospital is going to have a serious impact on the delivery and progression of other projects over the next number of years, and that much has been confirmed by the Minister for Health and the Department. Despite the massive implications, nobody involved in the process appears to want to take any responsibility. It seems the Government has set...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: Is the €293 million all Exchequer funding?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: The €293 million is the additional funding, separate from the €983 million, but how much of that is Exchequer funding?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: What is the additional Exchequer funding?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: That is included in the €1.4 million.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: I wish to raise a point of order.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: The point of order is that approximately seven or eight members are in attendance------

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: May I make my point of order? I ask the Chair to allow me to finish. He has had a good run. He stated that context is important and I have no difficulty with that. However, votes will soon be taking place in the Dáil and committee members are required to be present in the Chamber. It is our job to tease out these issues. I propose that we move to the first speaker. If further...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: I welcome Mr. Breslin and Mr. Pollock and their respective teams. I am sure Mr. Breslin will understand why members of this committee, the health committee and the public are frustrated by the overrun of costs and the impact this might have on other services. People need to be held to account and we need to get answers to questions. People become frustrated when they put questions and do...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: Might some capital projects may not go ahead as quickly as possible because of the overrun?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: The answer is "Yes". There will be an impact on some capital projects but which projects has not yet been decided. In my constituency, the second cath lab in University Hospital Waterford is important. The cost of that lab was approximately €4 million. Is that money guaranteed? Is it one of the projects that has been signed off on and with which there is no issue, or is it one of...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: I have a strong objection to that because, as Mr. Breslin will be aware, Oireachtas Members representing the south east got a clear, unequivocal commitment from the Minister for Health that the project was not at risk. In fact, only last week we were told by the Minister, through a Minister of State in Waterford, that this money would not be affected and that it was 100% secure. I am...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: We were told by the Minister for Health that he had signed off on the money for the second cath lab for Waterford.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

David Cullinane: Will Mr. Breslin bear with me for a second?

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