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Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Within the next two months.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: The job of the Minister is never to be satisfied at the speed of the roll-out of anything. It is our job to kick everything on. From my experience, and I said this in opposition as well as in government, the team we have in place in the Department is world-class in terms of skills, composition and dedication. National Broadband Ireland is giving it full throttle. It is in its interests...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I certainly will go back to the Department and examine what the possibilities might be in that regard. Throughout the Covid pandemic, we have looked, on a number of occasions and in a variety of ways, at what we can do to help some of our airports, particularly Cork and Shannon. We looked in real detail at what can be done. Even though the Chairman's suggestion involves funding coming from...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: In European aviation terms, getting PSO routes requires showing complete market failure.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I certainly will look into it and come back to the Chairman if there is any possibility of pursuing it.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I agree fully with the Deputy that this is an issue. He should by all means share his thoughts with the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform. He has a tough job, as do we all, in allocating scarce resources. It might be useful for the Deputy to share some of his thinking with him.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Again, I agree with the Deputy. We are only at the concept stage in this area, as are all countries. When we read all the reports about great hydrogen plans, and there is evidence going into it now, we must remember that we are all at an early stage. It is not yet clear and certain what exactly the alternative fuels will be. There is a variety of potential options as well as different...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Communities must come first in everything we do and no community should be dumped on, to pick up on the Deputy's wording. There is a wider strategic move to offshore and away from onshore. There will still be onshore wind development but there are certain capacity limits to that, including the needs of communities, the requirements of the grid and the fact that the efficiency, capacity and...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: They are but I will be honest. There is a real difficulty regarding how they would be applied. There is real uncertainty as to how they could be applied. That is the reason there has been such delay and difficulty. What we do not want to do is add to confusion, uncertainty or public controversy by having guidelines we cannot enforce, measure or monitor. That is the reason why they have...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Often the hardest thing to change is VAT. VAT rates are not easily adjusted or changed. The Minister for Finance rightly protects that because it is often seen as such an easy solution to every problem. My experience is that VAT rate reduction is not the easiest one to get over the line and it is not centre stage in the plans. The key thing for active travel is safe space. That is what...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: It is vital that they feel safe. It is not just about active travel. It also relates to public transport in particular. There was a very good research paper on this issue. It is by design from start, particularly around bus stops, stations, public transport itself and active travel routes. We need incorporate this thinking at every turn in everything we do.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I am looking at it constantly, not just because of that incident but because it is something that is increasingly in public consciousness and the consciousness of policymakers and rightly so.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: It is also down to streets and stops and stations. It is as wide as that.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: On that point, I have the highest regard for The Business Post and its currency. It has some of our best journalists and does really good reporting. Obviously, there was real concern in some of the stories. They raised issues around ownership structures and so on. In response to that, we immediately commissioned independent legal and accounting review advice at the highest level to see...

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I will check with Mr. Mulligan but "No" is the answer. Certainly nobody has approached me or the Minister of State, Deputy Ossian Smyth.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: Perhaps Mr. Mulligan might answer that question rather than having to pass me a note if that is acceptable.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: I am quite happy to answer that question. We do not have exact precision regarding what the figure is. NBI and Eir are working and it does not in any way interfere in the project. It does not materially affect it.

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: We expect the target of 60,000 to be reached in April. There is no end-of-year figure. I am up front in recognising there is this issue at the moment-----

Select Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Revised)
Vote 31 - Transport (Revised)
(9 Feb 2022)

Eamon Ryan: In April.

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