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Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: There were a few more questions but a more important point is the move from five to three years in terms of enhanced rights of foster parents.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I thank the witnesses.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: If Ms Hynes continues her answer it will be on the recording.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: It is a meeting of the select committee.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I do but, looking at them, I think there are some I can explore in the following week. I would like just to go back for clarification on some of the other questions. That would probably be a better use of time in the context of the report and the recommendations. I am just processing the responses. Mr. Quinlan went a little into the case that would be made in respect of harm and so on,...

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: It is not mandatory.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: The court also cannot make recommendations on services, etc. I recall the statement earlier when we spoke about unaccompanied minors. We provide them and children in the State with the same care when they come into that, but we do not when it comes to the voluntary care system because certain things are not mandated in a certain direction around supports and services or advocacy or a social...

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Is that still based on "is likely to be"?

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: If you take a child or make a court order or an application on behalf of a child under the provision of "is likely to be"-----

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: They are to be protected in this imaginary situation.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: It is also about neglect. If one were to say, "is likely to be neglected"-----

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: To put that in front of it, you then have to make a case that somebody is not going to protect their child, as in that final condition Ms Hynes mentioned. I am not using "you" to refer to the witnesses but for illustrative purposes. Within this provision, you are making a case that this person will be unlikely to be kept safe or protected in this imaginary situation of "likely to be". It...

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: They are currently being neglected. That is what I am saying; it is not "likely to be".

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I cannot stand over the semantics of that. If they are currently being harmed or currently at risk or currently being neglected, it is already in the provision. You do not add "likely to be". "Likely to be" is based on the assumption that something is not happening but could happen.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: That is currently in there.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Does Mr. Quinlan agree that is currently in the provision without adding "likely to be"?

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: No, it adds "likely to be".

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: If feels dangerous.

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: Let us say I work with man who has just come out of prison. Twenty-five years ago, that man committed a violent act and has not done so since. A social worker could make a very strong case if he seeks his children back or has children. It is open to being abused. I am not saying it will happen in every situation. My concern is that when it is open to being abused. A person may have...

Joint Committee On Children, Equality, Disability, Integration And Youth: General Scheme of the Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2023: Discussion (9 May 2023)

Lynn Ruane: I am okay with "likely to continue" because that implies something is already happening.

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