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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: And there are chairs of those committees.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: We should make sure that is agreed now and does not fall through the cracks.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: I have sympathy for the current chair and the current chief executive officer, CEO. The CEO has a difficult job and I wish him well. He has done a good job in difficult circumstances since he took over, given the history of some of the issues. He cannot be held to account for the actions of any predecessors who held different roles and we all accept that. I want to first come to Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: It is quite unusual.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Would it be fair to say that the genesis of some of these issues goes back much further? Mr. McCarthy has done this supplementary report on the back of the 2015 accounts and an audit he was doing which was suspended at one point which I will get to later.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: The genesis of this goes back to the 2010 accounts of the Kildare VEC.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: I have the report here and we can get it up on the screen. Mr. McCarthy's predecessor, Mr. John Buckley, was the then Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: That report was of 17 January 2012.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: That raised issues about procurement.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Who was the CEO of the VEC at the time?

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: No. Was it the same-----

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: In the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Who appointed him in his role as the CEO of Kildare-Wicklow ETB? Who appointed him?

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Who signed off on the appointment?

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: The Department signed off. So, notwithstanding issues and concerns that had been raised about the VEC which led to a supplementary report which the Comptroller and Auditor General says was quite unusual, the individual came through an interview process that was signed off on by the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: It was redeployment. Having said that, he was redeployed into the role.

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Does that concern Mr. Ó Foghlú?

Public Accounts Committee: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements 2015 (21 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: In terms of the 2012 supplementary report based on the 2010 accounts of the Kildare VEC, Mr. McCarthy examined the 2015 accounts of the Kildare-Wicklow ETB. He carried out an audit, found that there were issues and had to suspend the audit in June of 2017. Is that right?

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