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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The Minister's Department is after getting a lot of money out of us.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am just congratulating the good news of giving €69 million to Europe but it is not too good for farmers.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: They do.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The Minister made a statement that-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am having a great day, you are the one having a bad day.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Before I come to specific subheads, at the end of November the Department's gross expenditure was behind profile by €115 million, with current expenditure at a figure of €87 million and capital expenditure at €28 million. This leaves approximately 24% of the original Estimate, before any Supplementary Estimate is considered, to be spent between now and the end of the...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Why is that figure not part of the Supplementary Estimate? Normally if ANAs come up short, the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform asks for them to be taken out of the Vote. However, the Minister seems to be getting money to make up the shortfall for the ANAs and I am a little surprised not to see it included in the published Supplementary Estimate. There was no note in it stating...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It was not published. It is not included in the book.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: On the money to be paid to the European Union, the net Estimate does not put one dime into farmers' pockets. All it does in the best case scenario is ensure another €65 million will not be taken out of farmers' pockets. We do not need to spend all day on that issue. I am glad that the money is not coming out of farmers' pockets as there would have been a bit of a row about it.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am sorry-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I hope the Chairman is counting all of the interruptions.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: On the beef data and genomics programme, how was the original Estimate figure of €52 million calculated? Presumably, the Department had a profile of calving patterns and knew how many cows would calve after 1 July. The Minister has argued that the reason for the shortfall was late calving rather than farmers not inputting all the data. The Department knows from calving patterns that...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I have more respect for the Minister than that.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: We never thought we were going to pay for it. Damn, I bet the Minister would not have been able to-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: -----stand in the way of a blow if we had to pay all of it. The Minister is messing on this one.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I am just delighted that the Minister is not trying to load it on the farmers. The Department-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I wish to ask a technical question in order to seek clarification. If a farmer does not join the GLAS scheme, can he or she join the top-up scheme? There were a lot more commitments made under the GLAS scheme which does not apply only to hen harriers.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Will the Minister ensure that if a farmer is not in the GLAS scheme that he or she will be paid from zero? There is no question of a double payment. Will the Minister arrange it such that if a farmer does not want to join the GLAS scheme for various reasons, that under the hen harrier scheme, he or she will be paid from zero hectares as long as there is no double payment involved?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2015)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Therefore, they do not have an option.

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