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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: On the same page, the cost of prompt payment interest and compensation is €869,000. What went wrong in that year that gave rise to this level of payment, which did not occur the previous year? Why did the HSE not pay its bills on time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Would that mean that, because the HSE had the derogation from the previous year, it effectively has a payment in there covering the previous year as well?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: What happened? It is inexcusable that €1 million in taxpayers' money was lost because people did not process payments. That sum would go a long way in the various areas mentioned, for example, the home help service. One cannot throw €1 million out the door just for not paying invoices in time. Do the witnesses take my point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Mulvany to send the committee a detailed note as to how this arose. I can only go on the figure provided, which is €869,000. I do not know what figure Mr. Mulvany is referring to. On page 175, the report states the HSE carried out significant self-review of tax compliance in respect of 2016 with external tax assistance, which was completed in 2017. This, it adds,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Please speak slowly because I have not heard this before.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Do not tell me it is a tiny percentage. It is big money.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Tax settlements are published. Is it correct that this settlement was not published because it was self-declared?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: A settlement of €2.194 million would be big news. This is a big settlement, even if Mr. Mulvany considers it small relative to the HSE budget. Why did the HSE underpay tax by such a large amount? That figure relates to 2016. What was the position in 2017?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: What were the 2017 figures?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Mulvany to send us a breakdown of the 2016 figure.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will circulate it. At the end of page 176, retained interest earned on patients' private property is mentioned. I know a major programme of work is ongoing on that and a steering group is actively managing a resolution of this issue. When will it complete its work?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: If the patient has died and there is no next of kin, to whom is the money sent?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Who does the HSE send it to? Is it the Chief State Solicitor's office?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. McCarthy know to which office it is sent?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Mulvany to send us a note on where the money goes. We want it to be transferred into the dormant accounts fund or useful elsewhere for a beneficial purpose. I do not see any reference to the national children's hospital. Is expenditure on the new hospital provided through the HSE Vote?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Expenditure in 2017 on the national children's hospital, even though the board is not a legislative-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is under the Department. From which Vote is capital expenditure provided?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I am asking for figures on spending on the national children's hospital during 2017. Money went into the HSE under revenue and capital.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Financial Statements of the HSE
2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
(5 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: The national children's hospital is a big issue and the largest capital investment programme, yet it is not specifically mentioned.

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