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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Sure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: At one level, Deputy Ó Caoláin's point was probably the most apt one we have heard this morning and he is right. Anyone who wishes to get married in a particular church has to do a pre-marriage course. However, as far as I am aware, there is no stipulation for a couple to go to pre-parenting classes. Deputy Ó Caoláin made a good point. Sometimes when people are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I know but I am referring to what Deputy Ó Caoláin said in terms of parenting. I spent 17 years in a classroom. I knew who the good parent was - the parent who had the skills and capacity - as well as the bad parent. The point is valid.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: No, but there are parents who do not have the ability, for whatever reason, or who are not equipped.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Ó Caoláin's point and my point relate to how to empower people to become a parent or a better parent. That is the point, perhaps.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Byrne is keen to come in and I am mindful of the time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Seamus Healy is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: There is a vote in the Dáil so perhaps you could conclude. We will finish this session in approximately three minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Does Ms Mitchell wish to add to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Child and Infant Mental Health: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: On that positive note, we will suspend the sitting until after the vote. I sincerely thank Professor Nugent, Dr. D'Alton, Ms Kate Mitchell and Ms Lara Kelly. I thank Lara, in particular, because she has been a strong advocate to us in this committee and to the Oireachtas on mental health.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I ask all those present to switch off their mobile telephones. I welcome the delegation from Camphill Communities of Ireland to the second session and apologise for the delay. The number of votes called in the Chamber this morning suggests parliamentary democracy has gone into overdrive. As members and those watching and listening at home will be aware, Camphill Communities of Ireland...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Mr. Lynch for his presentation. It is disappointing that the presentation shows there is an issue with the HSE. Is it Mr. Pat Healy in the HSE that Camphill deals with?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Has there been dialogue with them before the meeting today?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I mean in recent times.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Was that the last contact the witnesses had with the HSE?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: The reason I ask the question is that I was looking forward to hearing about the successful work that Camphill Communities of Ireland does rather than putting Mr. Lynch in the unfortunate position of having to come to the committee and base most of his presentation on a lack of dialogue and action by the HSE. That is disappointing. I have tremendous time for the work of Camphill Communities...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I appreciate what Deputy Ó Caoláin is saying. So that members are aware, we got a briefing note from the HSE prior to today's meeting. The Deputy probably saw that. I am glad the Deputy agrees with me.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Does Ms Moffitt pay that fee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: The HSE in its briefing to the committee said that Camphill has a €4.2 million cash balance.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Challenges facing Camphill Communities of Ireland: Discussion (12 Nov 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Who sets the pay rate?

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