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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: It is possible. I want to focus on the first year of the tripartite deal and the payments. Ms O’Leary already stated that she negotiated and was responsible for that part.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: On the credit note issued by Renault, who issued-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: To Renault.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Had they sought that credit note?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Where did the request for the credit note go from there?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Did Mr. Collins see that request at that stage?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: What was the nature of the request? What was explicitly stated on it that the credit note was for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Did not cop? Did Mr. Collins ask?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Mr. Collins was asked to sign off on-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Mr. Collins was copied on an email.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Was Mr. Collins asleep at the wheel?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: It appears Mr. Collins was asleep at the wheel on several fronts.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: A final point.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: It is very clear that the guarantee kicked in from year one of the contract, not, as we were told, only in years two and three. In year one, RTÉ paid €75,000. RTÉ was propping up; essentially the guarantee was there from year one, contrary to what was stated by Ms O'Leary, that she was not aware of any guarantee to underpin-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: I wish to go back to a statement Mr. Collins made earlier in relation to the agreement that was in place with Mr. Tubridy. He spoke about the concealment and the deception. He also made a statement where he described the taxpayer as being defrauded.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Okay. Mr. Collins stated that the taxpayer was defrauded, so that is a very serious-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Okay, in his opinion. Has Mr. Collins spoken to An Garda Síochána and made a statement about that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Does Mr. Collins intend on making a statement to the Garda? Defrauding is a serious offence. It is unlawful, and that is a statement that Mr. Collins has made. On that basis, will he speak to the Garda?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: I think Mr. Collins should because he made a very bold statement. The barter account was set up in 2014. We also have the former director of commercial for RTÉ online - Mr. Willie O'Reilly. Was he the director that the time when that account was set up?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

John Brady: Mr. O'Reilly was the former director of commercial. Was he responsible for the establishment of the barter account?

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