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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Mr. D'Arcy made the decision and he signed off on it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: That is not the impression I am getting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Not on this job, though.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Was Mr. D'Arcy in sole charge of the process throughout that time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Is Mr. D'Arcy still in charge of it today?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: As we speak now, if another legal issue arose in the National Gallery, has Mr. D'Arcy the power to make a decision in that respect without bringing it to the board?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: We should not get lost in words, in that when Mr. D'Arcy refers to the executive, it is just him. In the case of an executive, one could argue it comprises five or ten people, but in this instance the executive is him.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Does Mr. D'Arcy not understand my concern, or that of the taxpayers of this country, that €420,000 was spent on a case that was lost, that the firm involved continues to work for the gallery, that a decision was taken by Mr. D'Arcy - the executive - to bring that firm on board and that the decision remains within Mr. D'Arcy's power without going back to the board?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: What was the cost of that project?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: It was announced in 2010 and work is ongoing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Is it true, therefore, that between 2002 and 2010, there was no word on when the project would commence?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: For the majority of that time there was no financial crisis; in fact, the country was awash with money. By 2010, on the other hand, the crisis had happened and funding was in short supply, yet the money was suddenly forthcoming for this project. That seems unusual.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Mr. Ó Donnchú is saying the plan changed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: When was that change initiated?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Was that in 2010?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: What is the total contribution to the project from the gallery?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Going back to the staff contracts issue, Mr. D'Arcy indicated that the National Gallery received legal advice to the effect that it would be able to defend the contracts given. The Labour Court found otherwise. Did the same legal team which gave that advice represent the gallery in court?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: And that legal team lost the case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: The same firm gave the National Gallery legal advice and then defended it in court and lost. Does the gallery still use that firm?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 15 - Staff Appointments in the National Gallery of Ireland
Vote 34 - National Gallery of Ireland
(21 Nov 2013)

Paul Connaughton: Is that being done at this point in time?

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