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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: They were given that opportunity on the day of that meeting. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Who were the members of the subcommittee and how many times did they meet?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Who were the members?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Did they have a full copy of the report to read?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: We have heard about the board's decision in multiple items of correspondence and in information that turned up in FOI. Professor Kilkelly, however, has just confirmed that the membership of the board did not have a copy of the report which they could read in their own time at their own leisure prior to taking a decision to not publish the report. They had sight of and were allowed to read...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Why was the board not given a copy of the report? Does Professor Kilkelly not trust them or is there a problem with some of the membership?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: By whom?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Legal advisers. That is fine. Looking at some of the correspondence in respect of FOI, we know the Department of Children and Youth Affairs stated Professor Kilkelly had concerns that the reviewers might not have been aware of some of the legal matters in progress that could have affected some of the narrative in the report. We discussed this with the two professors earlier. Is Professor...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: It is not about that. What is it about?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Is Professor Kilkelly stating that none of the legal matters to which she is referring have been concluded in that time?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: The legal matters which Professor Kilkelly stated the researchers might not have been aware of are multiple. How many are there?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Do they involve the young people or the staff?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: How many are civil and how many are criminal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: I imagine the public will be shocked to know that not only do we have this specific scenario but behind it there are at least 15 cases ongoing now for multiple years, supposedly. All of those are impacting on the situation in Oberstown and no information has been given on this. It seems-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Professor Kilkelly has not told me any of it. Will she give me some of those examples? I specifically asked her what were the legal matters and she told me she could not talk about any of them because they were ongoing. Will she comment on the ones she referred to which she can talk about? If they are in the public domain, then I presume she can speak about them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: It is in the public domain.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: I will let the facts speak for themselves. I do not see why the report could not have been redacted. I want to move on to some of the issues regarding the excuse for non-publication. This idea of fair procedures and right to reply smacks of an excuse for non-publication. I do not understand what that means. Having examined all the documents released under freedom of information...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Does Professor Kilkelly accept that the Minister requested that staff be given such an opportunity and that she asked that the report be published?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: Subsequent to receiving the input from the Attorney General who was seeking to facilitate publication in the public interest, did the board go back and get further legal advice based on the Attorney General's input, as the guardian of the Constitution?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Oberstown Children Detention Campus Operational Review Report: Discussion (30 Jan 2019)

Clare Daly: In the correspondence released under freedom of information, the Attorney General said that people who could possibly be identified would be given a right to reply or make an initial input.

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