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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: I will revert to this matter but, so that we are clear, is the witness saying that the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform has not yet made a determination on whether the change is in line with requirements under the public spending code? That has not been communicated to his office yet.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: My question was not about that. As the witness put it, permission has not yet been given. My question was on whether the position of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform regarding whether the increase complied with the public spending code had been communicated to the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government yet.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: It would not comply.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: That is what I asked. The Department has received a communication from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to say that the increase does not comply with the public spending code.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Maybe they could clarify the matter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: It would not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: I will tease this matter out during my second round.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Posts.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Traveller accommodation is subject to the Housing (Traveller Accommodation) Act 1998. Each local authority is required to develop a Traveller accommodation plan and it is up to each local authority to deliver on its plan. The Department allows for an overall spend nationally but does not set targets for an overall figure of units. We established that earlier. Is it not the case that over...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: The Secretary General is the Accounting Officer for the Department. The buck stops with the Department when it allocates funding for a specific purpose and that funding is not drawn down. Under Rebuilding Ireland, the Secretary General will be very quick to claim credit for reaching all the targets. Some of the methods might have been different as we discussed earlier - acquisitions were...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Has the Secretary General's frustration with non-delivery manifested itself in the Department having communications with local authorities, either the representative body or individually? If they are responsible for the failure to deliver Traveller accommodation, what communication takes place between the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government and the local authorities on this...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Would it be fair to say that local authorities need to get their act together and start delivering on their own plans and on Traveller accommodation once and for all? Every time we have a discussion on this issue - we have had several of them - the excuses are rolled out but there are no changes. The Secretary General has mentioned a report to be published in April. That may or may not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: We will await the report in April. At a future appearance before the committee, the Secretary General might discuss that report. Earlier I mentioned that the threshold for inclusion in the one-stage social housing delivery process increased from €2 million to €6 million. The Secretary General said that that proposal did not meet the requirements under the public spending...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: Was it not discussed as part of the review of the confidence and supply agreement? Was that its real genesis?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: It was one of the two initiatives we were told would solve the housing crisis, or at least one of the changes that were made in housing. As it turns out the change was not made because it cannot currently be done. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: The public spending code is being reviewed. What is the timeline for that? Ms Costello is from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. Is there a timeline for reviewing the public spending code?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: What is the timeline for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: The third issue is the serviced sites fund. This was another change that was made to allow local authorities to offset the cost of servicing sites and land to allow for affordable units. What is the target number of affordable units to be delivered in 2019?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

David Cullinane: I did not ask about 2020. Was any target set for affordable housing units to be delivered in 2019?

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