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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Who carried that out exercise?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: How long ago was this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I ask that this report is forwarded to the committee. I am aware that some of it might be confidential but please forward what is possible.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is news to me, but obviously not news to others, that these organisations did not have insurance and were in a pay-as-you-go situation-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: That issue has never crossed the desk of the Committee of Public Accounts before now. It is interesting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: The local authorities have a separate insurance system, the name of which escapes me just now. I believe it is mutual insurance under the Irish Public Bodies, IPB, insurance company. Has the State Claims Agency ever thought of doing an exercise for it on the same basis or is it on a pay-as-you-go basis also?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: If the section 38 agencies, which get at least €3 billion per annum, believed it was better to come into a scheme with the State Claims Agency on a pay-as-you-go basis, and if the entire budget for the local authority is also in that bracket of €4 million - and one could include capital expenditure of €5 billion or €6 billion - they would be a similar sized group...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: As a result of today's meeting, the committee will write to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform separately. I am not asking that an investigation be done but that the matter be considered and the Department's thoughts given to us. We will come back to it because at €2.6 billion on the SCA's balance sheet for claims, or closer to €3 billion, I have no idea what is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is fine.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: The NTMA might send us a note on the new designated bodies under its wing and how that came about.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: It might be helpful for us to have a list of those organisations done in the last 18 months so that we know what is happening. I am moving on to those on page 38. These are the portfolio companies.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I have to note the contrast between the two debates happening in the Oireachtas today. The Fossil Fuel Divestment Bill passing in the Chamber is asking the NTMA's Ireland Strategic Investment Fund not to hold any shares in fossil fuel companies while the NTMA is also the principal adviser to the Minister who has shares in the ESB. Moneypoint must be the biggest CO2 emitter in Europe perhaps...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I could not avoid noting the contrast between the two debates.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is Moneypoint safe?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will let someone else talk to Mr. Dorgan about that. I am moving on to the State Claims Agency legal costs on page 41. I have often raised this before. This is the "good public relations" that is done. On legal costs, "in 2017, the SCA settled 440 bills of costs received from third parties for €55.2 million - a reduction of 48% on the €106.9 million claimed". One would...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Which is the bigger end of it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: Then perhaps a page or a chart on the tribunals could be put in the report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is on page 46.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is fine and good for the tribunals but the main point I was raising was on the settlements and compensation, where the legal fees are consistently running above 50%.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts (Resumed)
Chapter 23: Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency (Resumed)
National Treasury Management Agency: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (12 Jul 2018)

Seán Fleming: I appreciate that but the public will find it a little hard to take that for €1,000 paid out the solicitors are getting €500 on top of that, yet the SCA is saying it is doing great internationally. That is what I am being told. It does not feel great.