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Seanad: An Bille um an Dara Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Deireadh a Chur le Seanad Éireann) 2013: Céim an Choiste (Atógáil) - Thirty-second Amendment of the Constitution (Abolition of Seanad Éireann) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: Some of the Senators who said in the House last night that they want reform are the very people who tried to stab Mary O'Rourke in the back on the proposal she put forward at the time. The Senators know that is the truth. They opposed fundamentally any aspect of reform in this House. They wanted the rotten boroughs kept - I am not referring to people present - and they had the temerity to...

Seanad: An Bille um an Dara Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Deireadh a Chur le Seanad Éireann) 2013: Céim an Choiste (Atógáil) - Thirty-second Amendment of the Constitution (Abolition of Seanad Éireann) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: Yesterday was a long day and night and I listened very closely to what colleagues had to say. The net issue in the Bill is whether the country will have a referendum to allow the people to decide. The fine speeches I have heard on all sides of this debate are really a matter for the campaign. My task is simply to answer any question Senators have on the legislation. However, I wish to...

Seanad: An Bille um an Dara Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Deireadh a Chur le Seanad Éireann) 2013: Céim an Choiste (Atógáil) - Thirty-second Amendment of the Constitution (Abolition of Seanad Éireann) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: This is not like Grattan's Parliament where people are being bribed. On the contrary we are simply asking the people to take a position on the matter. It is entirely consistent with what our party, the Fianna Fáil Party and Sinn Féin stated in our manifestos. In fairness the Labour Party did not give that commitment and it believed in a constitutional convention. Along with all...

Seanad: An Bille um an Dara Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Deireadh a Chur le Seanad Éireann) 2013: Céim an Choiste (Atógáil) - Thirty-second Amendment of the Constitution (Abolition of Seanad Éireann) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: The Civil War came to an end through a very simple communication between W.T. Cosgrave and Éamon de Valera, who incidentally did not want the Civil War and was trying to deal with the problems on the republican side at that stage, through Parliament itself. W.T. Cosgrave asked Éamon de Valera to accept two conditions in bringing the Civil War to an end, first the acceptance of the...

Seanad: An Bille um an Dara Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Deireadh a Chur le Seanad Éireann) 2013: Céim an Choiste (Atógáil) - Thirty-second Amendment of the Constitution (Abolition of Seanad Éireann) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: Yes, they did.

Seanad: An Bille um an Dara Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Deireadh a Chur le Seanad Éireann) 2013: Céim an Choiste (Atógáil) - Thirty-second Amendment of the Constitution (Abolition of Seanad Éireann) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: That is because we have a written Constitution that is bigger than the Senator or me. I believe the people are sovereign on this issue. That is the reason it will be put to the people. On the question of the choice of reform, I want to make it clear that there is no provision for a preferendum in our written Constitution. I ask colleagues to read Article 47, which states that effectively...

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: A very fine public servant in the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform who was listening to the Senator sent me a text to let the Senator know that Ireland Stat, a new website, was recently established on a pilot basis. It is not like the US model but we will get there. Equally it is not like the model the British Government has put through, wheredoesyourmoneygo.org, that gives that...

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I hope I have answered some-----

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I am probably going on too long.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I thank Senators for their contributions. Obviously, we will be back again to debate the issue. Many changes occurred here because of the fiscal compact treaty and the Fiscal Responsibility Act 2012. This legislation is an architecture of better public policy planning on expenditure into the future. There is broad political support for the Bill in this House and elsewhere and, I think,...

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I thank colleagues for their positive remarks concerning this legislation. In its simplest terms, it puts general Government expenditure over a three-year period and Government ceilings on expenditure, Minister by Minister, Department by Department, on a statutory basis. That is very useful because colleagues will know what they have to spend over a three-year period and the Government...

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I have some good news for the Senator.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I do not charge.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I only have one vote.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I very much doubt it.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: I agree with Senator Quinn.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: The floozie in the jacuzzi.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: A carryover.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: It feels like it.

Seanad: Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (11 Jul 2013)

Brian Hayes: By the local authority.

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