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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I will move on because it does not sound like Mr. Conlon is going to give me an answer. It is entirely unsatisfactory that he said that a unit is €150,000, which is the top end figure, and I am missing €150,000 in his calculations. I will move on. In terms of delivering value for money, Mr. Conlon said the cost is approximately €150,000 for 45 sq. m, which according...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I had a look at HUF Haus, the German company that does really fancy, Dermot Bannon-type houses, costs €2,000 to €2,500 per sq. m. Shomera is another, although I am not necessarily comparing like for like but, including installation and construction on-site, the cost is €2,081 per sq. m. HUF Haus produces top-of-the-range units. Mr. Conlon is saying we are paying 150%...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Had the OPW gone to Shomera, it would have cost €2,081 per sq. m.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I am flabbergasted by those answers. I had a number of issues to go into by way of contractors' lists but the Chair was very good to let me in when I arrived late.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: -----modular unit.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Each modular unit cost €150,000 and is approximately 45 sq. m. That puts the average cost per square metre – I am only running the calculation now - at €3,333. Am I correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Mr. Conlon said that figure is for that particular size of unit.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Help me understand the difference. The total cost is €442,000 from which the OPW is saying I should subtract approximately €150,000 for remediation of site works, provision of gas and so forth. When I do that subtraction, I end up at €292,000. The OPW says the box itself costs €150,000. I have, therefore, lost €150,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Yes, the modular unit. Mr. Conlon told me the average cost per modular unit is €442,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: The average cost per unit of developing sites, including connectivity to services such as gas, water and communications, and extensive remediation works on the suboptimal sites available, is in the region of €150,000 compared to initial cost. Mr. Conlon is telling me to subtract €150,000 from the figure of €442,000 for the cost of preparing the site.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: That is in the briefing note I have been supplied with. In any case, let us say it costs more than €150,000 and is €160,000 or €170,000. I do not know. The OPW is saying it costs €442,000 in total, with €150,000 of that for site servicing. The actual modular unit, which I am pejoratively calling the box, costs €150,000. I am still missing...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Does Mr. Conlon disagree that the average cost per modular unit is €442,000?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Let me come at it another way because I am not getting a clear answer. Let us split it the other way because it is €150,000 the other way around also. It is the same amount. The total cost per unit is €442,000. The box itself, that is, the modular unit, costs €150,000. That leaves €292,000. Where is the €292,000? Mr. Conlon is not telling me it costs...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Hang on a second. The €442,000 is an awful figure. I am going to return to the €150,000 because the figure Mr. Conlon gave me comes out at well over €3,000 per square metre. I will come back to that. Mr. Conlon said €442,000 is the total. The actual physical modular unit is costing €150,000. That leaves a hole of €292,000 to fill. Can Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Mr. Conlon asked from which briefing document I am speaking. This is the document that was sent to the clerk of the Committee of Public Accounts on 7 October 2024 in preparation for this meeting. I again quote from that document, which is not paginated, unfortunately.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
(22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I thank the Leas-Chathaoirleach. I apologise for arriving so late to the meeting. I was chairing the meeting of the Select Committee on Education, Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science. It was unavoidable. I apologise also if I duplicate earlier questions as I was not in a position to follow the meeting. I am aware that the issue of modular housing has been...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Business of Joint Committee (22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Apologies have been received from the Chair, Deputy Paul Kehoe. We will go briefly into private session.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Financial Supports for Tertiary Level Students: Discussion (22 Oct 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I remind members to ensure their mobile phones are switched off for the duration of the meeting as they interfere with the broadcasting equipment, even when on silent mode. On behalf of the committee, I welcome the following representatives from the USI: Mr. Chris Clifford, national president; Mr. Bryan O'Mahony, deputy president and vice president, academic affairs; Ms Emma Monahan, vice...

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