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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Have there been cases of younger than three-year-olds being in special emergency accommodation?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Has there been at any point?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: It is my understanding that there have been 18-month-old children.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: In terms of that look back, Tusla might give us all of that information about the age profiles.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Ms Duggan stated that most of the children who end up in SEAs were previously in other forms of residential care. How many of the 51 were in residential care previously?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Is it the case that these children are going into special emergency arrangements because there is nowhere else to put them? Is that basically what Ms Duggan is saying?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Does that speak to a gross failure to have the necessary placements within statutory centres?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: There was a commitment in the strategic plan.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: A former Minister, Deputy O'Gorman, spoke about creating a total of 110 new residential places by the end of this year, 2025. How many of those new residential places are currently in place?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: There are 46, so we are not even 50% of the way. How many does Ms Duggan think we will have by the year end?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: When will we actually achieve the strategic objective of providing 110 beds?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: That was in the strategic plan of the previous Minister, Deputy O'Gorman.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: He spoke only last year about reaching the objective of 110 residential care bed placements by the end of 2025. That was after everything that has happened in the world.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: So they would not have the same level of fire safety compliance required.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: From the statement Ms Duggan made, were the majority previously in other forms of residential placement?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: I am conscious of time. For me, that is not value for money. We need to invest in new residential care placements. Currently, the cost is €700,000 per child in accommodation that does not meet the care standards. That is concerning to say the least. Could I get a breakdown showing the comparison between the special emergency arrangements? I do not expect to get the figures now...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: I am just looking for the headline figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: What is the cost of a voluntary service?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Just to conclude, it would be helpful if we could we get a breakdown by area of the number of SEAs, the number of children placed, monthly costs, and how that then compares with the voluntary and statutory sector as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: I will leave it at that. I am conscious that other members want to come back in for supplementary questions. I will go back to Deputy Geoghegan.

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